[MD] guidebook/primer

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Gav:
i like your list mark. only 8 seems less than
clear.... doesn't know  where to fit?

>8. A higher  Code of Art produces excellence at  each
> level.

don't think this is the best way of putting it.  maybe
best to talk of the code of art as part of the MoQ 
ontology or  evolution? i think the DQ/sq moral code
just confuses the other moral  codes.
 
Gav 13-10-06 Formalised code of art thread:
all static patterns are *intellectual* (as opposed to
pre-intellectual).  therefore when being like a dead
man you are killing all static patterns, not  just the
abstract representational intellectual ones.


Mark 14-10-06: Hello Gav.
A few things may need clearing up here.
First of all, 'all static patterns are *intellectual*' is not  correct. 
Social patterns are not intellectual at all - they are imitated  patterns of ritual 
behaviour.
Social patterns are not concepts - they are real, empirically verifiable  
values.
Social patterns can be conceptualised, but now we have two different  things:
1. Social patterns. (imitated ritual behaviour)
2. Intellectual conceptions of what the intellect regards social patterns  to 
be. (e.g. Sociology)
It is suggested perfecting mundane ritual patterns kills those patterns and  
reveals DQ. No concepts are involved, although again, one may conceptualised  
what is going on here, but that is something different - it's symbolic  
manipulation - intellectual patterning.
 
Intellectual patterns may be killed in an analogous way to perfecting  
ritual, and thus reveal DQ. At least that is the impression i get. This is done  by 
rehearsing an intellectual problem until one reaches an impasse and drops the  
problem to just sit. With patience and quietude, the solution appears, or a 
step  toward the solution appears.
 
Gav: 'i think the DQ/sq moral code just confuses the other moral  codes'
 
Mark 14-10-06: I've noticed you phrase this before, but i don't understand  
what you are saying.
How many moral codes do you feel we are dealing with?
I don't view the DQ/sq division of Quality to be a moral code - the  moral 
codes are characteristics of each evolutionary development: Laws of  physics, 
Law of the Jungle, Laws of social organisation, Laws of symbolic  manipulation - 
truth. DQ/sq challenges conventional intellectual laws and that  is a source 
of friction.
If one kills concepts of what society and biology are the rituals and  
desires still remain. It would not be plausible for the MoQ to suggest they  exist 
independent of the intellect if they could not be directly  experienced.
Your language is heading for Idealism if you suggest concepts are all there  
are.
One area of confusion is the highly abstract description of the inorganic  we 
live with as part of our culture. Be careful.
 
The Code of Art. Where does this sit in relations to the four laws already  
identified?
In my view the Code of Art deals with excellence.
I'm not talking about winning a race or striving for ego  satisfaction.
The Code of Art deals with high morality in apparently simple  processes.
Maybe this is why it seems it does not fit in?
 
Love,
Mark