[MD] Animate vs inanimate

[Heather Perella]

Hello Ham,

     [Ham]
> If yin and yang are mutually exclusive
> contingencies, that is correct.

     Ok, I understand where you are coming from here. 
I don't know if the MoQ would agree where I come from
or not, but I notice yin and yang, yet, I see some yin
in yang and yang in yin, as the traditional drawings
depict.  This might be where I diverge onto my own
philosophy, but really not my own since the Chinese,
and others maybe, have traditionally thought of a
reality being this way for thousands of years.  I
don't know where the MoQ stands using this
translation.

     [Ham]
> No need to apologize.  It is dog-crap as a
> metaphysical thesis.  "One big
> pile" is a heap of sawdust or manure.  This is not
> Essence.

     The only apology I had was for throwing in a
joke, while having a serious discussion, but
anyways...

     [Ham]
> The MoQers are always focused on existence.  What
> other choice do they have?

     The existence part of your thesis that when
worded states the contradictions are together, thus,
the MoQ approaches the world with an implied harmony,
without contradiction, by putting existence into one
view called quality.  Whether contradictory essents
are harmonized or not, quality doesn't boil it down to
two essents, but you know that, so I'll move on.

     [Ham]
> Sounds like you're having guilt feelings about
> something you've said or
> done.  I'm a philosopher, not a psychiatrist, so I
> can't help you there.

      I only put in those last comments due to you
saying anthropomorphizing is not wrong, but they may
"...jar your neighbors nerves..."  Anthropomorphizing
is a philosophy.  It has been for thousands of years. 
It has been a way of depicting reality.  Translating
nature/reality into human conceptualization or a human
reality so other humans may understand a fundamental
integrity.  Again, I don't know if the MoQ would look
at it this way, but I do.  I also believe in
naturopomorphizing humans.  I know naturopomorphizing
is not a word, but you might get my point?  I say
naturopomorphizing, as I believe trees, deer, cougars,
etc... project into human reality.  There is always an
overlapping gray area, for me; and for me, this
overlapping reality is what I can never distinctly
make solely human, solely cloud, for birds are here,
too.  This whole reality is what I participate with. 
This reality, for me, has a view that combines
bird-human-tree-cougar-etc...  This overlapping
reality is what you get when you combine creek flowing
with bird singing with human intelligence with wind
blowing with bear hibernating with possum eating
cricket with human experiencing radio, etc...  I
really can't put it all into words, it's an experience
fishing at a lake, as well.  Again, this is what I've
realized before I even knew about Pirsig and the MoQ,
so, I don't know where this view and experience stands
in comparison with the MoQ. 

Thanks,
SA

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