[MD] Barfuesserkirche (ZMM & Dewey)
pholden at davtv.com
pholden at davtv.com
Mon Oct 23 16:38:05 PDT 2006
Quoting ARLO J BENSINGER JR <ajb102 at psu.edu>:
> Platt and All,
>
> Before you launch into yet another cheerleading session for the USofA, or get
> mired into another absurd reductionist political debate about the Lone Hero
> Individual raging a Holy War against the Evil Collective Hordes, can I please
> ask you to begin a new thread (maybe "Woo Hoo for Atomistic Individualism", or
> "We're the USA and You're Not") and not destroy this thread, which so far has
> been a useful and interesting discussion of Dewey, Pirsig and educational
> philosophy?
Interesting and useful to whom? I thought we were here to discuss the MOQ.
> If you have specific ideas about the Danish "folkehøjskole", or the schools
> David Granger mentions in his address on "deep democracy", or those involved in
> these initiatives, from Dewey to Jane Addams to Myles Horton, or even comments
> on "what Dewey famously called 'the eclipse of the public,' whereby the
> atomistic individualism of the private market economy fosters 'conditions which
> halt the social and humane ideals that demand the utilization of government as
> the genuine instrumentality of an inclusive and fraternally associated public'"
> (Granger), we can discuss them here, of course.
Say what?
> Consider a few of the basic questions. What is the role of the Academy?
Let the free market decide.
>What is the role/purpose of education?
Let the free market decide.
> How should our schools be structured?
Let the free market decide.
> What should be taught?
Let the free market decide.
> Is "No Child Left Behind" a horrible monolithic failure of
> authoritarian government to impose "what" we should learn?
Yes. It assures unqualified students will be promoted to higher levels.
> Or is it a brilliant
> strategy for ensuring all our children develop similar skills and values?
The public school system in the U.S. is a disaster.
> Is
> there anything we can learn from the examples presented (Hull House, Highlander
> or the Danish Folk Schools)? Or is the Fordist mode of production that has
> infiltrated education a good thing?
Let the free market decide.
But of course in your eyes the people are too stupid to know what's good for their
children. They must be told what to do by an educator class.
I propose public schools be privatized with parents given eductional vouchers.
That way Dynamic Quality will be served. If you object, tell us Pirsigians why.
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