[MD] extricating MOQ from SOM

[Ron Kulp]

 (Ron)
Arlo,
Imagine what could be if scientific knowledge was tempered with this
understanding, dare I use the word utopia?
Thank you for the welcome and I will search the archives.

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[Ron]
Being "Native" I greatly appreciate your discussion.

[Arlo]
Allow me to also convey welcomes, Ron. If you search the archives,
you'll see many of us have long argued for and appreciated Pirsig's
illuminations on (and from!) Native American understandings. That he
chose to end Lila with a reference to Native American culture emphasizes
the value we can attain from revisiting the worldview of the "Indian".
Similarly, he writes in a letter to Ant, " A famous Japanese Zen Master
[Dainin Kategiri Roshi] who read ZMM told me he thought it was a nice
book but he didn't see anything unusual in it. He was quite puzzled at
its success. Another Japanese tourist to America said, 'This book is not
interesting to Japanese people because we already know all of this.'"
There are some that not  only seek to silence, but ridicule, the
Tao/Zen/Indian centrality to the MOQ. 
But know that this is only a few. Most appreciate, and I for one advance
that the only way forward is through this core. The best summation of
Western, SOMist culture was given in ZMM, "[man] had built empires of
scientific capability to manipulate the phenomena of nature into
enormous manifestations of his own dreams of power and wealth...but for
this he had exchanged an empire of understanding of equal magnitude: an
understanding of what it is to be a part of the world, and not an enemy
of it." If that describes an SOMist culture, then the path away from SOM
must be to move towards "being part of the world", something the
Taoists, Zenists (Zenites? 
Zennies?), and Native Americans understood all along.




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