[MD] extricating MOQ from SOM

[Gene M]

Sounds to me like those are people who interacting in a very real way with
Dynamic Quality, and not building up static intellectual patterns to try and
explain it. I can't tell you if that's a good thing or a bad thing, just my
interpretation of the situation.

-Gene

On 10/26/06, Jaclyn Engele <JENGELE at mass.rr.com> wrote:
>
>
> > [Case]
> > I thought Pirsig's said that the problem arrises from regarding SOM as
> THE
> > fundamental metaphysical distinction...
>
> I am conscious of that and yet at the same time I see things slightly
> different.  The problem I see is that the people who make this mistake are
> the ones who objectify to a fault. They  view quality(reality) as residing
> in either subject or object.   This is the story we're all familiar with.
> However, those who are predominantly subjective in their outlook (for
> example: my wife, artists, the professional classical musicians that I
> have
> to deal with in my line of work every day) don't make the same
> mistake.  If
> they subjectify the world to a fault they end up making a different
> mistake
> but through it all they somehow still recognize quality as supreme.   The
> mistake they make is that they refuse to analyze and learn(paralysis by
> analysis is a term I hear at work all the time).  This is why talking to
> them about a Metaphysics of Quality goes in one ear and out the
> other.  It's
> just not a problem they can relate to.  You see what I'm saying?
>
> Through my observations I have come to wonder if, in practical terms,
> finding the right 'balance' between S&O in one's life is compatible in
> concept with the MoQ.  Finding harmony.   "Quality(reality) ...is the
> event
> at which the subject becomes aware of the object"ZMM pg.215
>
> I also wonder if S&O are tools to use to gain access to
> reality/truth/quality.  If, in doing that, I am recognizing the superior
> positioning of reality/truth/quality to a subordinate S&O, then I think
> that
> is compatible with MoQ.  That is very pragmatic.  That is something I can
> use in everyday life.  I think the subjective people might just find that
> useful as well.
>
>
> Jim Engele
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