[MD] confused

[Heather Perella]

Ham,

     [Ham]
> Merriam Webster's Collegiate Dictionary's five
> definitions: "2. the state of being characterized by
> sensation, emotion,
> volition, and thought."
> Incidentally, Webster's follows this definition with
> the word MIND (in caps.
> as a synonym).  So there's the answer to SA's query:
> What is MIND?"  It's
> Consciousness.

     Yes, but what is consciousness?  I see the
definition above, but what is thought?  I notice
specifics have dependent relationships.  Therefore I
can focus upon thought, but if I focus on thought too
much or a lot, I'll find my awareness of what thought
is, split into its' 'dependent relationships'.  For
me, I can't just say thought, mind, and consciousness
(and tree for that matter) have a concrete, that is
final definition.  This is usually where you thread
off into another perspective from mine.  I know what
mind is, and the definition of the particulars of mind
can be experimented, argued, and discovered.  Yet,
what I'm even more so stating, as I have all along, is
that eventually mind depends on other aspects of
reality so much so, that without these other aspects
of reality mind would not be here to be defined in the
first place.  Therefore, my perspective is (1) that
mind can be pointed out, we can decide upon a
reasonable definition.  (2) Some aspects of mind may
still need explored upon to tighten up the definition.
 (3)  Mind will still have this dependent aspect that
qualifies, to me, as an important factor in providing
what a mind is.  This last approach to mind, number 3,
is where I am taking my stances usually.  For me, I'm
assuming (1) and (2) are easily noticed, how else
might we even be generalizing mind in the first place.
 Yet, (3) is the ecosystem approach.  For example, I
see a tree, and I define that tree.  Yet, when we
notice the whole ecosystem of the tree that definition
will grow in perspective, one could show how a tree is
the sun, by pointing out that the hydrogen from the
sun is now in a tree and has become an essential
structure of the tree.  This perspective could expand
into without the black hole in the center of this
Milky Way, then the coherence of this galaxy would
have been threatened long ago, and so a tree depends
and is put into definition by a black hole in the
center of this galaxy.  On and on.  Dictionaries would
not be large enough to incorporate such definitions,
but here is again where I have been assuming all along
that this universe is composed of relationships.  I
simply don't ignore these relationships.  These
relationships provide much larger meanings for
particulars of reality.  Then you have what can a mind
do, what experience in the mind will I have today as
the clouds have moved into this region of hills upon
the earth.  The definitions and real happens of
thought and mind are not finished just because we have
pointed out in the dictionary or have come up with
words on a paper answers to what a mind is?  This has
been the hard part for you Ham.  To have a question go
totally unanswered.  I can answer what is mind, but I
would be lying to myself if I left that answer
thinking I've completely defined mind.  It will not
happen.  The sun will rise tomorrow.  How will that
change my perspective?

Thanks,
SA

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