[MD] Flying Spagetti Monsters
ian glendinning
psybertron at gmail.com
Wed Sep 20 10:45:45 PDT 2006
Platt's point is valid though.
A pragmatic choice is made about the lesser of evils, a suspension of
higher freedoms, when signining up to the discipline of a combat
force. Typically it's not for life, and typically except in times of
crisis, the acceptance of that temporary situation is not enforced,
it's volunteers who sign up, and even then there are generally grounds
for questioning orders when serious moral issues arise .... protecting
the rights of (exceptional) whistle blowers etc.
Horses for courses.
Generally we do not run society like a combat force, we'd object.
Ian
On 9/20/06, Arlo Bensinger <ajb102 at psu.edu> wrote:
> [Platt]
> Blind obedience to a non-blind obedience stance can be degenerate. There
> are times, especially in war, when blind obedience to orders is crucial to
> success.
>
> [Arlo]
> "Blind obedience to a non-blind obedience stance"? This doesn't even make
> rhetorical sense. What I've said, if anything like this, is that "blind
> obedience to static social patterns" always leads to degenerate behavior
> ("killing in the name of..."). And, although you are correct, the military
> functions through demanding blind obedience to orders, there are times when
> Good men must decline orders. In other words, there are times, even in war,
> when disobedience to orders is crucial to morality. Your way of thinking,
> "There are times, especially in war, when blind obedience to orders is
> crucial to success" could have been the motto for the Third Reich.
>
>
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