[MD] Flying Spagetti Monsters

ian glendinning psybertron at gmail.com
Wed Sep 20 18:08:06 PDT 2006


Platt, this is too easy, since you asked,

Yes, America is freer and morally superior to many other states.
I can make distictions.

Now you answer a question.
Is there any order from your commanding officer you would not obey ?

Ian

On 9/21/06, pholden at davtv.com <pholden at davtv.com> wrote:
> Quoting ARLO J BENSINGER JR <ajb102 at psu.edu>:
>
> > [Arlo asked]
> > Is there anything Soldier Platt could be ordered to do, that he would say "no"
> > to? If not, how does that make him any better than Soldat Hermann would did
> > whatever the Reich ordered HIM to do?
> >
> > [Platt]
> > Because Soldier Platt would be fighting to defend a Constitution which
> > guarantees Individual-Intellectual Level rights. Again, you seem to have
> > trouble making moral distinctions between Nazis, Commies, IslamoFacists and
> > Americans.
> >
> > [Arlo]
> > Of course I do, I'm just a moronic "liberal". But your premise seems to be that
> > because Soldier Platt is serving in the *American* military, nothing he could
> > be ordered to do would ever be immoral. So, since nothing America ever does is
> > immoral, blind obedience to the state always leads to moral action. That's what
> > you're saying, no?
>
> No.
>
> > In other words, WE should be blindly obedient to our state, because our state is
> > perfectly moral and pure, but OTHERS should NOT be blindly obedient to their
> > state, because their state is NOT America, and hence is imperfect and capable
> > of immoral activity. Good summary?
>
> No. There is a moral difference between states that you apparently either do
> not see or cannot admit.
>
> > I'm sorry, you can think what you will, but I believe that such uncritical
> > deference to the state leads invariably to evil. And if you think America is
> > somehow "above" that, you're sadly mistaken. I prefer soldiers who say "no,
> > that is immoral" than those who just do whatever is ordered of them, telling
> > themselves that because the order came from THEIR state, it can't possibly be
> > immoral.
>
> You are sadly mistaken to think America is not morally superior to many other
> states.
>
>
>
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