[MD] DQ Reduex

[David M]

Case

Your are on the right track here.
It is all just a great fire work, but
with at least four levels, complex,
beautiful, from nothing and returning
to nothing. So it is, & no less significant
for all that, perhaps more precious
than eternal stasis.

David M


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Case" <Case at iSpots.com>
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Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2006 3:13 AM
Subject: [MD] DQ Reduex


> [Platt]
> What you have described is static quality -- predictable reaction. Dynamic
> Quality isn't shaking, tossing, agitating, churning, jouncing, stirring,
> waggling or just any old physical energy. DQ is moral force.
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> [Case]
> Dynamic means Dynamic. Change in the environment is dynamic. The Taoists
> claimed that change is the only constant in nature. The Dynamic Quality 
> that
> drives biological systems on this planet is sunlight. But moral or not
> Dynamic Quality is not always good.
>
> Pirsig is, of course, the source of this misunderstanding and he reveals 
> the
> nature of his own misunderstanding early on with this:
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> "But as David Mandelbaum noted in his book The Plains Cree, 'The term 
> manito
> primarily referred to the Supreme Being but also had many other usages. It
> was applied to manifestations of skill, fortune, blessing, luck, to any
> wondrous occurrence. It connoted any phenomenon that transcended the run 
> of
> everyday experience.'
> In other words, 'Dynamic Quality.'"
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> Once again: if you define better as better it just gets better and better.
>
> This is a little like Christians who deny the existence of luck, claiming
> that blessings come from God, curses come from Satan. As I have said many
> times uncertainty in so interwoven into the fabric of our thinking that we
> have separate static categories for good luck and bad luck. But it is all
> change. It is all dynamic. It is all about uncertainty.
>
> [Case]
>> Visit any Spencer's Gift and you can watch many examples of multicolored
>> fluids of various viscosities dripping and flowing in determined but
>> unpredictable ways.  While you are there, take a look at what they can do
>> with a magnet and a 9 volt battery.
>
> [Platt]
> All static patterns. Lack of predictability is not an indication of DQ.
> Whether a fluid pattern goes up or down, or whether an ant turns to the 
> left
> or right isn't DQ at work. Such unpredictability is simply our lack of
> knowledge of what it's like to be a fluid or an ant.
>
> [Case]
> But that is just the point: lack of predictability IS Dynamic. The 
> behavior
> of those swinging little porpoises and butterfly is completely
> unpredictable. With as few as three variables in a system chaos breaks 
> out.
> It can be contained and predicted within a certain distribution of
> probability to it is ever dynamic.
>
> Another point worth noting is that in the case of oil and water all of the
> action takes place on the surfaces. With the injection of dynamic quality
> the surface area increases as the bubbles break apart and become smaller 
> and
> smaller. As the dynamic quality dissipates the surface area gets smaller 
> as
> the bubbles combine. Even when the fluids have settled out there is 
> dynamic
> activity on the surfaces as the water and oil molecule move against each
> other.
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> [Platt]
> If the fluid jumps out of its container and starts dancing the
> hootchy-kootchy, then you might say DQ is involved.
>
> [Case]
> I apologize for reposting this but I think it applies here:
> _______________
> The DQ Fandango
> _______________
> Nature always ambles the path of least resistance
> Life's The Way. We shoot the bird at entropy's persistence
> Photons striking carbon make it want to bump and grind
> Two stepping 'til closing time with every sweet thing it can find
>
> Entropy is patient he doesn't have to worry
> He always wins out in the end so he's never in a hurry
> Each and every species comes with special talents
> Swinging Cha-cha, Tango steps struggling for its balance
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> Entropy is smiling because he's heard this tune
> Sometimes it seems to last a little long but it always ends too soon
> Ballerinas pirouette, leaping 'cross the stage
> Twirling in their tutus pretending they won't ever age
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> Molecules dancing
> While entropy's waiting
> We are sunlight
> Dissipating
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