[MD] Flying Spagetti Monsters

[Laycock, Jos (OSPT)]

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> Subject: Re: [MD] Flying Spagetti Monsters
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> [Jos]
> > I like to make a distinction, but recognise that it's flawed: 
> 
> I don't find the distinction (flawed or otherwise) that you 
> allude to, anywhere in what follows.

The distinction was the one referred to in the previous posts between "evil"
and "ruthless moral acts"

> > Cultural morality defines its own version of evil within a 
> given culture, 
> > intellect is informed by this definition. 
> 
> Is it really the definition of 'evil', or what the definition 
> applies to, that is at issue? 

Its the vagueness of the language thats at issue, I want to make it clear
that we have to discuss the two as seperate concepts.
 
> > Acts are "described by" cultural level consciousness as 
> good or evil. The 
> > question of whether they actually are or not, is not 
> visible to intellect, 
> > as intellect is a pattern written on top of a what is 
> always a realtively 
> > predjudiced cultural viewpoint. 
> 
> But what if someone disagrees with the viewpoint of their 
> culture.  Are they still prejudiced? 

Firstly, one who disagrees with the cultural viewpoint is normally doing do
intellectually (or biologically), in both cases their disagreement is a
damaging influnece on that culture. Disagreement with culture from within
culture is like a religious schism, I could argue that in disagreeing you
cease to be aligned with your compatriots.

Also prejudice was probably the wrong word, whether you agree with the
cultural standpoint or disagree with it, the position you adopt
intellectually has still been coloured(/predjudiced by) by the culture upon
which it is written.


> > At any point where we try to state what is good and what is 
> evil we can only 
> > do so by creating static descriptions of both, but as good 
> is implicitly a 
> > dynamic phenomena (thus so is it's absence) we know that all static 
> > definitions are inaccurate. 
>  
> 1) Stating what is good requires a static description. 

> 2) Good is dynamic.

> 3) :. All static definitions are innaccurate.

Yes I agree with these 3 points.

> 
> There are missing premises to your argument.
> Craig 
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