[MD] Flying Spaghetti Monsters
craigerb at comcast.net
craigerb at comcast.net
Wed Sep 27 19:51:16 PDT 2006
Ian,
I'll concentrate on (2), since we mostly agree on (1), (3) & (4), while in (5) you reintroduce the bad-interference-is-bad argument that we're both trying to avoid.
[Ian]
> (2) [Interference] may be "bad' for some individual members, better for other
> individuals...incentives and limits can (do) have positive value.
That's the point. In a free market transaction, the participants act in a way beneficial to both parties. Why should government come along & interfere with this dynamic to the benefit of one party & the detriment of the other?
As for incentives (= subsidies): a) the government rarely has the expertise that the "invisible hand" of the market can provide; b) subsidies are usually the result of special interest lobbying; c) those sitting comfortably in government do not have the incentive to make quality decisions that those who are affected by them do; & d) one person's subsidy is another person's tax burden. Replay my argument 1)-5) substituting 'subsidy' for 'interference'.
> Even in Rand's utopia, the members FREELY (my emphasis) delegate some of > their choices to certain members, and support their specialist authority on
> certain subjects.
That 'FREELY' is what makes it a utopia.
> By free choice, people choose to have controls and incentives on
> otherwise "free" markets...the only weak link is in choosing the form of
> governance to which you delegate such (contingent) authority.
The real weakness is that in regard to the economy such authority is unnecessary & counterproductive.
> Some form of democratic freedom seems to be the clear "western' choice, but
> there are many possible flavours for setting up such institutions, and
> remembering that they are just that ... instituted as servants of the
> (free) people.
I agree with the choice of democracy for political institutions, but prefer the free market as the economic institution. When I meet 2 muggers in an alley, I don't want to vote on who owns my wallet.
Craig
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