[MD] DQ Reduex

Case Case at iSpots.com
Thu Sep 28 18:20:36 PDT 2006 

[David]

Eternal stasis seems to be what some people, in fear,
are seeking. The trick, of course, is to embrace the
flow and its riches. Nice quotes. Glad to float up
stream with you.Of course, the latching is still important.

[Case]
I am starting to wonder about that term latch. "If" what we are flowing in
is fluid perhaps it is better to think of stasis as resistance almost in an
electrical sense. Friction. 

I 
  am  
     wearing 
             down 
                  until 
                        I 
                           become
                                  Static.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Case" <Case at iSpots.com>
To: <moq_discuss at moqtalk.org>
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 3:04 AM
Subject: Re: [MD] DQ Reduex


> Case
>
> Your are on the right track here.
> It is all just a great fire work, but
> with at least four levels, complex,
> beautiful, from nothing and returning
> to nothing. So it is, & no less significant
> for all that, perhaps more precious
> than eternal stasis.
>
> David M
>
>
> ____________________________________________________
>
> David,
>
> Stasis? What stasis?
> Nothing is standing still.
> The world shakes itself into
> <---THIS--->
>
> Reality provides the picnic basket
> but "We" make into a party.
> It's either us or the ants?
> What the heck...
> We'll leave the some scraps.
> Spread the love.
>
> For of all sad words of tongue or pen,
> the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
> - John Greenleaf Whittier
>
> For of all glad words of tongue or pen,
> the gladdest are these: 'Let's do it again!'
> - Case
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Case" <Case at iSpots.com>
> To: <moq_discuss at moqtalk.org>
> Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2006 3:13 AM
> Subject: [MD] DQ Reduex
>
>
>> [Platt]
>> What you have described is static quality -- predictable reaction. 
>> Dynamic
>> Quality isn't shaking, tossing, agitating, churning, jouncing, stirring,
>> waggling or just any old physical energy. DQ is moral force.
>>
>> [Case]
>> Dynamic means Dynamic. Change in the environment is dynamic. The Taoists
>> claimed that change is the only constant in nature. The Dynamic Quality
>> that
>> drives biological systems on this planet is sunlight. But moral or not
>> Dynamic Quality is not always good.
>>
>> Pirsig is, of course, the source of this misunderstanding and he reveals
>> the
>> nature of his own misunderstanding early on with this:
>>
>> "But as David Mandelbaum noted in his book The Plains Cree, 'The term
>> manito
>> primarily referred to the Supreme Being but also had many other usages. 
>> It
>> was applied to manifestations of skill, fortune, blessing, luck, to any
>> wondrous occurrence. It connoted any phenomenon that transcended the run
>> of
>> everyday experience.'
>> In other words, 'Dynamic Quality.'"
>>
>> Once again: if you define better as better it just gets better and 
>> better.
>>
>> This is a little like Christians who deny the existence of luck, claiming
>> that blessings come from God, curses come from Satan. As I have said many
>> times uncertainty in so interwoven into the fabric of our thinking that 
>> we
>> have separate static categories for good luck and bad luck. But it is all
>> change. It is all dynamic. It is all about uncertainty.
>>
>> [Case]
>>> Visit any Spencer's Gift and you can watch many examples of multicolored
>>> fluids of various viscosities dripping and flowing in determined but
>>> unpredictable ways.  While you are there, take a look at what they can 
>>> do
>>> with a magnet and a 9 volt battery.
>>
>> [Platt]
>> All static patterns. Lack of predictability is not an indication of DQ.
>> Whether a fluid pattern goes up or down, or whether an ant turns to the
>> left
>> or right isn't DQ at work. Such unpredictability is simply our lack of
>> knowledge of what it's like to be a fluid or an ant.
>>
>> [Case]
>> But that is just the point: lack of predictability IS Dynamic. The
>> behavior
>> of those swinging little porpoises and butterfly is completely
>> unpredictable. With as few as three variables in a system chaos breaks
>> out.
>> It can be contained and predicted within a certain distribution of
>> probability to it is ever dynamic.
>>
>> Another point worth noting is that in the case of oil and water all of 
>> the
>> action takes place on the surfaces. With the injection of dynamic quality
>> the surface area increases as the bubbles break apart and become smaller
>> and
>> smaller. As the dynamic quality dissipates the surface area gets smaller
>> as
>> the bubbles combine. Even when the fluids have settled out there is
>> dynamic
>> activity on the surfaces as the water and oil molecule move against each
>> other.
>>
>>
>> [Platt]
>> If the fluid jumps out of its container and starts dancing the
>> hootchy-kootchy, then you might say DQ is involved.
>>
>> [Case]
>> I apologize for reposting this but I think it applies here:
>> _______________
>> The DQ Fandango
>> _______________
>> Nature always ambles the path of least resistance
>> Life's The Way. We shoot the bird at entropy's persistence
>> Photons striking carbon make it want to bump and grind
>> Two stepping 'til closing time with every sweet thing it can find
>>
>> Entropy is patient he doesn't have to worry
>> He always wins out in the end so he's never in a hurry
>> Each and every species comes with special talents
>> Swinging Cha-cha, Tango steps struggling for its balance
>>
>> Entropy is smiling because he's heard this tune
>> Sometimes it seems to last a little long but it always ends too soon
>> Ballerinas pirouette, leaping 'cross the stage
>> Twirling in their tutus pretending they won't ever age
>>
>> Molecules dancing
>> While entropy's waiting
>> We are sunlight
>> Dissipating
>>
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