[MD] Missing the Point

[Dan Glover]

>From: gav <gav_gc at yahoo.com.au>
>Reply-To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
>To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
>Subject: Re: [MD] Missing the Point
>Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 09:45:31 +1000 (EST)
>
>hey dan,
>yeah i know the quote and i took you at your meaning
>rather than words.

hi gav

no problemo.

>
>sorry i missed your question but i guess that just
>illustrates my point: i haven't the time nor energy to
>wade through multiple 15k posts which are 90% a
>rehashing of previous posts and ideological positions.

i do lots of scanning myself. most stuff just goes in the bin.

>
>from your many years of work on this stuff i know that
>you are coming from a good place dan. i am not trying
>to suppress disagreement or opinion...perhaps i did
>come over a bit holier-than-thou.

no no not at all. i thought you having a go at being a bit jocular thus the 
playful reply. my bad.

>
>i would like to see some progress though. really. if
>you get the MOQ and realise the potential power of
>this stuff then great let's start fleshing it out and
>applying it. for those out there that don't then i
>recommend you read 'the guidebook to ZAMM'by ron di
>santo and tom steele (*as well as pirsig's books of
>course; ant's is very good too), before jumping on the
>discussion and trying to 'compete' with pirsig.

i am curious what kind of progress do you think is possible? is academia the 
way to go?

>
>i get frustrated when i see neo-luddites like DMB
>spending hours tapping away explaining points and
>errors to folk, over and over again, when this stuff
>should be basic to the MOQ.

sure.

>
>i guess what may be required is another forum in which
>we can collectively construct an MOQ primer that
>really kicks some ass, and helps alleviate a lot of
>what i see as wasted energy. i have already raised
>this point with Horse.

sounds like a start.

>
>gav
>ps what was your Q dan?

it wasn't important.