[MD] Missing the Point

gav gav_gc at yahoo.com.au
Sat Sep 30 23:28:42 PDT 2006


hey sa,
and i thought i was lazy with me paragraphing ;-)

as you said there is a lot of 'versus' going on in
discuss and one central point of the MOQ is that it
resolves adversarial dichotomies very well. that these
'versus' threads persist and don't seem to properly
resolve is indicative of at least one party 'missing
the point', re: the nature and purpose of the MOQ.

now this isn't as much a criticism of those
individuals involved in the discussions as it is a
criticism of the *lack of a common understanding* from
which we are 'sallying forth'.

we have to keep in mind that pirsig only sketched the
MOQ out in Lila. it was just a beginning, a statement
of first principles really. that is why i find so much
value in the guidebook and ant's thesis: they add some
more detail and depth to that sketch.

incidentally i would be very interested to find out
how many 'discussers' have read ant's thesis and the
guidebook.

in any case my suggestion of a primer is a result of
this lack of common understanding. if people are still
arguing over left/right politics; religion v
mysticism... in short if people are still arguing from
a *SOM perspective*, then discuss is going to get
bogged down, unnecessarily in my opinion. rather than 
*discussing* the MOQ, we are continually trying to
extricate it from SOMish misunderstanding.

okay?
dunno if i can put it much clearer than that.




		
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