[MD] Art of Value

[Dan Glover]

Hello everyone

Art doesn't have value. If it did, everyone would agree on it. They don't. 
Lila doesn't have Quality. Quality has Lila. Art doesn't have value. Value 
has art. When you see this then everything becomes art. Life and death are 
acts of art. Painting a painting is art but so is motorcycle maintenance and 
climbing mountains and sailing the seas and digging graves. Looking to the 
article we read:

"Do u believe consciousness can survive the death of the brain?" he writes. 
No, Joe, it can't. Why kid ourselves? These were my answers, not 
Humphrey's."

What a smug answer! Is Broks a dead man who is speaking to us from the 
grave? How could he possibly be so certain? He knows that trees cannot 
experience a sunny day. How? Is he a tree? The man is confronted by the 
great mystery of life and death and all he can offer is smugness and 
certainty. The guy needs to spill some tea from his cup, imo.

Thank you for reading,

Dan

>From: "David M" <davidint at blueyonder.co.uk>
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>To: <moq_discuss at moqtalk.org>
>Subject: Re: [MD] Value of art
>Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2007 20:21:46 +0100
>
>Platt
>
>Thanks too, looks like Nicholas is going down an interesting
>avenue, not too far removed from our pre-intellect quality.
>
>David M
>
>
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>From: "MarshaV" <marshalz at charter.net>
>To: <moq_discuss at moqtalk.org>
>Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 8:32 PM
>Subject: Re: [MD] Value of art
>
>
> >
> > Platt,
> >
> > 'The Mystery of Consciousness' was a great article.  Thanks for sharing
> > it.
> >
> > I just started a new painting.  It got me to thinking that each
> > painting is like a new lover.  And like most new loves, I am having
> > trouble sleeping for wanting to interact with this new experience.  I
> > wouldn't trade richer, thinner or more beautiful for one moment of
> > the painting experience.
> >
> > Marsha
> >
> >
> >
> > At 11:33 AM 3/30/2007, Platt wrote:
> >>Hi All,
> >>
> >>Once again I find confirmation of my view that the key to understanding
> >>reality (and the MOQ)  is through art. This time it comes from a review 
>of
> >>new book on consciousness by Nicholas Humphrey reviewed by Paul Broks in
> >>Prospect magazine. Broks writes:
> >>
> >>"Humphrey recognizes the value of art, in particular that artistic 
>methods
> >>and media may prove more valuable than ordinary language 'as analytical
> >>tools for exploring the nature of phenomenal experience.'  We can, for
> >>example, learn from the work of Claude Monet, who was obsessive in his
> >>quest to capture the qualities of 'present tense experience.' Getting
> >>one's head around the problem of consciousness, 'experiencing the truth'
> >>of a scientific and philosophical theory, may be as much concern of art 
>as
> >>science. Scientific advances alone may never be enough to satisfy our
> >>intuitions."
> >>
> >>The full article can be found at:
> >>
> >>http://www.prospect-magazine.co.uk/article_details.php?id=8612
> >>
> >>Regards,
> >>Platt
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