[MD] Art of Value

[Case]

> [Case]
> Ok so are you saying that there is no external reality?
> I mean there are physicists who say our individual witnessing
> of events bring the events into being.

[Ham]
Yes.  John Wheeler and Andrei Linde are two of them, and Neils Bohr planted 
the seeds of phenomenalism with his theory of Complementarity.

[Case]
Wiki says phemonmenalism goes back to Berkley and Kant. It mentions Russell
and Mach. But it seems to predate Bohr and I do not at all see how it
relates to Wheeler. Wheeler's many worlds proposal would not claim there is
no external reality in any case.

Are you a phenonmenalist? Of what stripe?

[Ham]
But let me be clear about my ontology.  

[Case]
>From what follows I have to question whether we can even share the same
definition of "clear".

[Ham}
All reality is "external" in the sense that we are conditionally separated
from it.  

[Case]
There is the world of private experience that is not separated from us.

[Ham]
Finite existence is a Nothingness/Otherness dichotomy held together by
value-sensibility.  

[Case]
I would say finite existence is a static pattern of values. By that I would
mean it is a set of relationships that have a highly probability of
remaining constant.

[Ham]
Our reality is Otherness, and we are "the hole of nothingness" in it.  

[Case]
I think it is exactly not that. Our reality is completely Us. That is each
individual creates a unique internal representation of reality. This
includes memories and an organizational structure. Collectively we create a
shared reality which is culture.

[Ham]
What makes us beings-aware is the Otherness that we sense as Value.  

[Case]
What makes us aware is our nervous system. Values are largely perceptual, or
sensations informed by past experience.

[Ham]
When Value is divided by Nothingness, Difference emerges and reality appears
as objectified.  

[Case]
Dividing by Zero produces and error. With regards to perception and Value
formation, being able to detect difference is on equal footing with being
able to detect similarity.

[Ham]
That's why we perceive (i.e., create) reality as multiplistic and relational
rather than as One.

[Case]
We are able to recognize relationships and conceive of reality
multiplistically because of our memories. Our ability to slip and slide back
and forth in time is called imagination.