[MD] Heads or tails?

[ian glendinning]

Hi Case,

Yes, at the most fundamental levels of "physics" these rounding errors
are "quanta". and at this level of about as "absolute" as one can get,
we are as Davdi M implies in the realm of metaphors on top of
metaphors, with little hope of anything we can experience directly.

Ian

On 4/12/07, Case <Case at ispots.com> wrote:
> [Ian}
> Assuming you were talking chaotic patterns in repeated calculations ?
>
> Interesting, it's an accurate metaphor in the sense that the rounding limits
> - in a calculating machine - are properties of the machine that manifest
> themselves in the patterns.
>
> ie the patterns are part of physical laws, but they are inherent in the
> process of interaction, calculation upon calculation, rather than the static
> machine.
>
> The attractors (patterns) exist but they exist in a "strange" dynamic space.
>
> David's "Why" is of course a mixed question of explanation and/or purpose
> ... ?
>
> [Case]
> The problem with rounding error is much deeper than this I fear. The
> Platonic Ideal was the product of the idealized world created by Greek
> mathematics. Points, lines and planes do not exist and the real world.
> Perfectly defined length and breadth do not exist in the real world. Nothing
> in reality is exactly one meter in length. It was this "lack of perfection"
> or slop in the real world that made the ideal world seem perfect and the
> real world ugly.
>
> ----------------------------------------------------
> > Case/Ron
> >
> > The real mystery is why are there patterns and repeats?
> >
> > David M
> >
> > David,
> > My hunch is the manifestation of static quality.
> > The value mechanism called quality is the real mystery to me
> > Did you catch any of the 2+2=5 rounding error posts
> > That Case and I kicked around? I feel the rounding
> > Limit in mathmatics is a perfect example and a relaivly
> > Accurate metaphor for this phenomena.
> > -Ron
>
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