[MD] Alternatives to the scientific method

[David M]

Hi Jos

Philsopher of science John Dupre at Stanford questions the notion that there
could or is any single scientific method, and that they could/should or can 
be
brought together into a single theory of everything.

David M

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Laycock, Jos (OSPT)" <Jos.Laycock at OFFSOL.GSI.GOV.UK>
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Subject: Re: [MD] Alternatives to the scientific method


>I also think its clear, and so does Platt, and all three have subtly 
>different interpretations.
> What do you make of the comment from random scientist number 1 then?
> Seemed a lot like "we all know what it is but cant define it" to me, which 
> is a lot like saying "we dont really want to look to carefully in case we 
> all didn't mean the same thing after all".
>
>> -----Original Message-----
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>> [mailto:moq_discuss-bounces at lists.moqtalk.org]On Behalf Of ian
>> glendinning
>> Sent: 31 July 2007 16:46
>> To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
>> Subject: Re: [MD] Alternatives to the scientific method
>>
>>
>> This thread has legs !
>>
>> Are we really debating "what" the scientific method is ?
>> I though the 1,2,3,4 numbers game was pretty clear (inlcuding
>> falsifiable hypotheis and repeatable experiment). This "basic
>> empiricism" IS the established scientific method. The debate is surely
>> about where the boundaries are to a method like this arriving at
>> "truth" ... and alternatives as we approach / breach those boundaries.
>> When should we stop calling it science, or where should we stretch the
>> defintion of science, at its philosophical / metaphysical boundaries.
>>
>> I'm going to have to go back through earlier responses / references.
>> Ian
>>
>> On 7/31/07, Laycock, Jos (OSPT) <Jos.Laycock at offsol.gsi.gov.uk> wrote:
>> > That is what I am attempting to discover!
>> >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: moq_discuss-bounces at lists.moqtalk.org
>> > > [mailto:moq_discuss-bounces at lists.moqtalk.org]On Behalf Of
>> > > pholden at davtv.com
>> > > Sent: 31 July 2007 16:13
>> > > To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
>> > > Subject: Re: [MD] Alternatives to the scientific method
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Quoting "Laycock, Jos (OSPT)" <Jos.Laycock at OFFSOL.GSI.GOV.UK>:
>> > >
>> > > > Ok so Kepler says we must measure things, but I can measure
>> > > anything I like!
>> > >
>> > > Not if your goal is to follow the scientific method of
>> > > replicating an experiment.
>> > > You must measure what the original experimenter measured.
>> > >
>> > > > I may be open then to criticisms of the quality of my
>> > > measurements, but thats a
>> > > > different story. My answers will keep changing, but thats
>> > > no different from trying
>> > > > to measure the position of a particle, each time you ask
>> > > the question the
>> > > > situation is changed, so you cant perform the same
>> experiment twice.
>> > >
>> > > As I understand it, measuring quantum particles is done
>> > > mathematically using
>> > > certain formulas. See:
>> > >
>> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Measurement_in_quantum_mechanics
>> > >
>> > > > Repeatability
>> > > > is context dependent, and varies in its impact on the
>> > > quality of the data.
>> > >
>> > > Is not repeatability essential to the scientific method?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
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