[MD] Contents of Moq_Discuss Digest, Vol 21, Issue 7

[MarshaV]

At 04:35 PM 8/4/2007, you wrote:

> >
> > >>To say the minds of the masses are only changed after declaration of war
> > is>>a bold but, sadly, partially true statement. Sometimes Ibsen is right:
> > "the majority is Always wrong"
> >
> >
> >
> > >Only-partial, sometimes-always?  Okay.  And besides, context is
> > > >missing.  Context for the situation, and context for each
> > > >individual.  Totally relational and everchanging.  If you had
> > > >something else in mind, I'd love to hear it.
> > >
> > > >Marsha
> > >
> > > Context is very important, but i was speaking in very broad terms.
> > > I thought about this more and the example of the 1930's and the Great
> > > Depression came to mind. I guess the situation calls for a cooperation
> > > between the masses and the citizens of the "mental high country." (the
> > > public working together to elect FDR to implement change). Yet again
> > this is
> > > my first open discussion with MOQ mailing list and i may be far off.
> > Your
> > > thoughts?
> > > thank you
> > >
> > > Ryan
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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> > Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2007 15:38:06 -0400
> > From: MarshaV <marshalz at charter.net>
> > Subject: Re: [MD] Contents of Moq_Discuss Digest, Vol 21, Issue 6
> > To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
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> > At 03:13 PM 8/4/2007, you wrote:
> > > >>To say the minds of the masses are only changed after declaration of
> > war
> > >is>>a bold but, sadly, partially true statement. Sometimes Ibsen is
> > right:
> > >"the majority is Always wrong"
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >Only-partial, sometimes-always?  Okay.  And besides, context is
> > > > >missing.  Context for the situation, and context for each
> > > > >individual.  Totally relational and everchanging.  If you had
> > > > >something else in mind, I'd love to hear it.
> > > >
> > > > >Marsha
> > > >
> > > > Context is very important, but i was speaking in very broad terms.
> > > > I thought about this more and the example of the 1930's and the Great
> > > > Depression came to mind. I guess the situation calls for a cooperation
> > > > between the masses and the citizens of the "mental high country." (the
> > > > public working together to elect FDR to implement change). Yet
> > > again this is
> > > > my first open discussion with MOQ mailing list and i may be far off.
> > Your
> > > > thoughts?
> > > > thank you
> > > >
> > > > Ryan
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> > Greetings Ryan,
> >
> > First, let me say Welcome!!!
> >
> > I can't imagine who the citizens of the high country might be.  Do
> > you see any among the candidates in either party?  Ron Paul,
> > maybe?  I recently volunteered to be a poll worker, and am now an
> > assistant registrar.  But as far as voting, I'm considering writing
> > in Robert Pirsig's name.
> >
> > Marsha
>
>
>
>For me it is hard to compare true intellectualism with modern politics.
>I recently spent a week at Georgetown University studying our political
>system
>and sadly i think that our system restricts anyone who could truly help from
>entering the white house.
>I haven't the slighest idea who the citizens of the high country are now,
>although my idealism says that it may be Kucinich.
>Listen to the man, all of his politics aside, theres a great recognition of
>Quality within him.
>Since this will be my first election i would like to let my vote reflect my
>idealism,
>since there is a cacus in Minnesota on Super Tuesday.
>RIght about now, though, i would vote for anyone who have a comprehensive
>plan to change our education system.
>We can do a better job and we should.
>
>Ryan


I like Kucinich too.  In 2000 I was hoping for Senator Paul 
Wellstone.  And I agree with the importance of education.  When I 
went to high school, a Civics class was mandatory.  I was taught it's 
each citizens responsibility to participate in our form of 
democracy.  I've always taken that responsibility very 
seriously.  And even if neither Dennis Kucinich or Ron Paul become 
candidates, their participation, in spite of the odds, brings the 
level of discourse up a few notches.  And just maybe if the voting 
public gets angry enough, as they are getting today, something new 
and positive starts to happen.

Marsha