[MD] Alternatives to the scientific method

ian glendinning psybertron at gmail.com
Tue Aug 14 08:05:59 PDT 2007


Nice try Platt, I've done plenty of Randian research on the subject
.... the publishers of her books sell her philosophical resources
pretty hard .... hard to ignore.

In your own words, why did YOU recommend "Atlas Shrugged" to a MoQ'er
- what relevant message did YOU want ME / US to get ? I remain at a
complete loss. I gave you hundreds of words on my take on Atlas
Shrugged - not very complimentary I'll grant you, but sincere and
considered.

Sincere consideration is all I'm after - yours.

Ian

On 8/14/07, pholden at davtv.com <pholden at davtv.com> wrote:
> Quoting ian glendinning <psybertron at gmail.com>:
>
> > Here's a deal Platt, in good faith ...
> >
> > I'll give you a 500 / 1000 word summary of "Darwins Dangerous Idea"
> > with explained examples ....
> >
> > IF
> >
> > ... you'll give me you 500 / 1000 word summary of the point of "Atlas
> > Shrugged", which I spent considerable effort researching and reviewing
> > at your suggestion. (Related to this MoQ context - multi-leveled,
> > evolving values and patterns of quality, whatever.)
> >
> > You owe me.
>
> Ian,
>
> Such a deal! For an easy-to-take summary of Rand's philosophy, go to:
>
> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7336056375813253358&q=
> fountainhead&total=108&start=0&num=50&so=0&type=search&plindex=0
>
> OR easier
>
> Google/Video/Fountainhead -- Howard Roark's 6 minute speech explaining
> Rand's philosophy from the movie "The Fountainhead" starring Gary Cooper and
> Patricia Neal. His summation puts it all in a nutshell:
>
> "I came here to say that I do not recognize anyone's right to one minute of
> my life. Nor to any part of my energy. Nor to any achievement of mine. No
> matter who makes the claim, how large their number, or how great their need.
> I wished to come here and say that I am a man who does not exist for others.
> I wished to come here and say that the integrity of a man's creative work is
> of greater importance than any charitable endeavor."
>
> >From an MOQ perspective, this means a person's intellect is for her to use
> as she sees fit. She is under no obligation to use his creative ability for
> any purpose other than her own. In short, the Rand philosophy extolls the
> a virtue of selfishness. (In fact, she wrote a book with that title.)
>
> No need to reciprocate, Ian. I take it you have been persuaded by Dennett's
> book and so will acquire a copy at the local library to peruse. I suspect,
> however, that much of it, like a lot of thinking about evolution, is speculative.
> To my knowledge no one has ever observed the origination of a new species.
>
> Platt
>
>
>
>
>
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