[MD] Contents of Moq_Discuss Digest, Vol 21, Issue 8

[MarshaV]

Ham,

I wrote I thought the government should subsidize education.  Did I 
write anything that expanded that statement into something 
more?   No!   I think you are arguing about points never made.  I 
have no desire to have a battle over ideologies with you.  It would 
be a waste of my time.

Marsha




At 12:53 PM 8/6/2007, you wrote:

>Marsha --
>
>
> > On the one hand you write criticizing the general public, "It isn't
> > that that our elected bureaucrats are operating in secret, but that
> > the general public could care less about what's going on in
> > Washington until election time comes around.  And then they echo the
> > sound bytes of politicians, typically the negative ones about their
> > opponents."
> >
> > On the other hand you write criticizing those who do care enough to
> > be upset when leaders abuse power, "My first question would be: Where
> > on this planet would they find comparable freedom and
> > opportunity?  Then I would ask: Why don't they move there?"  Love it
> > or leave it?   Is that what you're suggesting?
> >
> > It seems you've put citizens in a lose/lose situations.
>
>
>I admire people who care (about people, things, ideas), and I do think that
>mainstream Americans are largely ignorant of events and ideologies that are
>not an immediate part of their everyday lives.  I hear a lot of complaints
>that seem to mimmick what the politicians are saying but don't have much
>thought behind them.  For example, the idea that because we are a rich and
>powerful nation we "ought to provide" free medical care, free college
>tuition, decent housing, guaranteed job security, etc., for everyone,
>ignores that fact that Government produces no income except what is
>extracted from the taxpayers.  None of these objectives is mandated by the
>U.S. Constitution.  Even federal taxation was added as an amendment (to
>raise money for the Civil War).
>
>Lobbyists, CIA bungling, and K-Street funding are not what is bringing
>America down.  The problem is the eroding value of individual initiative in
>our coddled society and its affect on the will of its citizens.  If we lose
>the will to preserve our culture, control our borders, defend our freedom,
>live within our means, and strive for excellence, we shall leave a shattered
>legacy for our children.
>
>The politicians will promise anything that will help them get elected.  But
>if Americans look to Government as their cradle-to-grave provider, what is
>their incentive to become self-reliant?  The influx of millions of
>immigrants (legal and illegal) demanding entitlements only adds to the
>burden of the productive members of our society.  What is THEIR incentive to
>become self-sufficient?  I see the U.S. drifting rapidly toward the
>socialism that has weakened the Scandinavian countries, Canada, and much of
>Europe.  The "power" that has made America great, which you seem to
>disparage, is the determination and industry of its people.  I do not wish
>see this land of opportunity reduced to a socialistic state.
>
>Them's my thoughts.  I expect you to find something disagreeable about them.
>
>Regards,
>Ham
>
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