[MD] Clinton vs. Bush

[Ron Kulp]

Hello Marsha,

Having friends and family in the "sandbox" as it is called, I think the
war serves many purposes,
secure oil intrests, take the war on terrorism (which is vauge) to a
real place and give them
armed targets keeping the focus off American soil with the intent of
profiteering
and opportunism. I think the War was planned and calculated without
taking into account
the history of the region of the past 30-40 years and past
administrations dealings and
effects.  All in all, it's a damned if you do and damned if you don't
situation.
war stimulates an economy too..bottom line,   money  all about money and
control.
.....and the effects of piss poor planning. my theory is there is no
goal just knee-jerk
reaction after knee-jerk reaction. The question is if 911 had not of
occurred would we have still
gone to war.

Ron


Hi Ron,

My theory is that a win in Iraq was never a goal.  Creating chaos was.
As long as there is the potential for a civil war, are presence can be
justified.  Our continued presence in Iraq is being justified by many
Dems.  Recently heard one, a Dem and ex-military man, state that in
spite of the mess it is now our war and our responsibility.  He talked
about after a redeployment, dispersing a large number of troops in other
friendlier MiddleEast countries to protect "our national interest'.  No
one has yet precisely defined what is this "our national interest".  He
spoke of it taking at least 
24 to 48 months to redeploy.   They're weasling!
.
Marsha








At 09:50 AM 8/8/2007, you wrote:
>All lying aside,
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>THE CLINTON RECORD v. GEORGE W> BUSH
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>(Last Update Spring 2005)
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>Clinton Record
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>Moved from record deficits to record  $236 billion surplus
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>   Bush Record
>  Budget
>  Moved from record surplus to record $331 billion deficit.
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>This had led the International Monetary Fund (which often bails out 
>basket-case economies) to warn of a fiscal melt down with global 
>repercussions.
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>  Domestic Discretionary Spending*
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>  clinton
>  + 36.3%
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>  bush
>(-11.5%)
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>  Civilian Federal Workforce
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>  clinton
>22 million jobs created
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>bush
>Lowest unemployment rate in 30 years
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>  Job Growth
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>clinton
>  0.3 million jobs  created (but net civilian job loss)
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>bush
>Highest unemployment rate in nine years
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>  clinton
>Increased minimum wage from $4.25 to $5.15
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>  bush
>   Wages
>  Opposes wage increase
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>clinton
>Earned income tax credit for 15 million poorer working families
>  Taxes
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>bush
>  Tax cuts for the rich, increased audits for tax credits for working 
>families
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>  clinton
>Biggest expansion in college aid since GI bill
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>  bush
>  Education
>  Under-funds own education initiative
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>clinton
>Largest expansion of national parks and monuments since Teddy 
>Roosevelt, signed Safe Drinking Water Act, signed Kyoto Accord
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>  bush
>  Environment
>  Worst environmental President in history.  Used regulations to 
>undermine Clean Air Act and Clean Water Act, rejected Kyoto Accord and 
>expanded logging and oil drilling in national parks and monuments.
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>  clinton
>Worked with UN, NATO and/or allies to bring peace to Kosovo, Bosnia, 
>Northern Ireland, East Timor, promoted Middle East peace process, 
>nuclear threat through Framework Agreement and saved Mexico from 
>currency crisis.
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>  bush
>  Foreign Policy
>  Cowboy unilateralist diplomacy, unilateralist undermined war on 
>terrorism with Iraq venture, increased North Korea threat through Axis 
>of Evil Pigmy comments, antagonized our allies and ignored 
>Argentinean-Brazilian currency crisis.
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>"By any measure available, Clinton left office having given greater 
>priority to terrorism than any president before him."  Washington Post.
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>Paul Bremer (current Iraq administrator: "Clinton correctly focused on 
>Bin Laden."
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>  Terrorism
>  In the words of Bush's own counter-terrorism director: "They did know

>better. We told them. The FBI told them. The CIA told them. They did 
>know better. And the tragedy here is that Americans went to their 
>deaths in Iraq thinking that they were avenging September 11 when Iraq 
>had nothing to do with September 11. I think for a Commander in Chief 
>and a Vice President to allow that to happen is unconscionable."
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>The Bush administration focused instead on Star Wars and Iraq.
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>  RELATED LINKS: Economic Statistics Briefing Room  (Pres. GW Bush) 
>http://www.whitehouse.gov/fsbr/income.html; and Economic Statistics 
>Briefing Room  (Pres. Clinton)  http://clinton4.nara.gov/fsbr/esbr.html
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