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Quoting Micah <micah at roarkplumbing.com>:

> Platt,
> 
> You asked for examples of W. Bush lying, I gave them to you.
> 
> You have responded with red herrings, you favorite being that Clinton is a
> liar. On that point, I agree, but we were talking about Bush lies.
> 
> Micah

Micah:

As I pointed out, none of your examples qualify as lies. To lie you have to be
aware of the truth at the time of the alleged lie. The Big Lie, repeated by you
and many others on the left, is that Bush lied -- a propaganda technique made
famous by Joseph Goebbels. 

Platt

> 
> 
> Quoting Micah <micah at roarkplumbing.com>:
> 
> > Platt,
> >
> > When his lips move.
> >
> > Actually, many times. How has the "uniter, not a divider" done so far?
> 
> Blocked by left-wing radicals.
> 
> > Didn't he parse up the world into "you're either for us or against us"?
> > Pretty uniting? Or was he lying?
> 
> You think we should unite with those dedicated to killing us?
> 
> > Or how about when he says "the terrorists are trying to take our freedom"?
> > American citizens have a RIGHT of freedom, it cannot be taken away...what
> is
> > he trying to imply? That our right to freedom can be taken away, by anyone
> > including him? I'd certainly call that a lie.
> 
> You think you would be free under Sharia law? You think the Chinese are free
> under Communist rule?
> 
> > He said he wouldn't use the "enemy combatant" status on an American
> citizens
> > if that provision passed. He named U.S. citizen Padilla an "enemy
> combatant"
> > within 6 month of the provision's passage. I'd certainly call that a lie.
> 
> Changing your mind when circumstances require is not lying.
> 
> > But, go ahead and Google "George W. Bush Lies" and see what happens...
> 
> You go ahead and Google "Bill Clinton" lies" and see what happens . . .
> 
> > There is no argument here, Bush is a liar.
> 
> To lie you have to be aware of the truth at the time of the lie, like the
> times
> Clinton lied under oath. None of your examples above qualify. The accusation
> that Bush is a liar is itself a big lie.
> 
> Platt
> 
> 
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