[MD] Politics and Change

hzeytin at gmail.com hzeytin at gmail.com
Tue Aug 14 10:10:43 PDT 2007


Hi Ian and Marsha,
Many thanks for your responses. I continue with including DQ into the equation and I believe it touches on both your comments;
Dynamic quality in politics is what interrupts the homeostasis/ the equilibrium in the values system, it challenges the existing currencies negotiated. It does so as being "added" to the existing system, and all values are reevaluated. The political system is forced to reconfigure to internalize this "new" value and to add/ include it into its flow of static qualities. Where such internalization is not possible, system falls into a revolution where the dynamic quality actually ruptures the existing system and forces the birth of a new political system.  

Ian, I'd think in the translation of DQ at the intellectual level to policies, and the pragmatic application thereof at the social level we are left with static quality (btw I do not mean to degrade quality when calling it static - facts of life).

But as mentioned above, it is the DQ at the intellectual (or perhaps the "truths" level) that triggers/forces the changes in the political system in the first place. Then as you say it is the "normative", the policies that continue the show until the ecology of the system triggers new intellectual DQ that in turn effect the political system.
I guess we have to bear in mind that not all "change" is DQ. But all DQ is change.

Marsha, I agree that the Earth system will have (and always had that effect as at the inorganic level). It might not have been as threatening as is now. It will and does have an effect on the organic and social levels and hopefully at the intellectual DQ level solutions and "policies" will emerge that will preserve the what we got left.

Its always so much harder to talk about DQ!...

Best wishes,
HZ

Ian said:
To me, Politics is the pragmatic application of policy.
So yes, it's a social activity, but there is no reason why the
policies themselves should not be based on intellectual activity.
So, I find your focus on maintaining or creating merely static
patterns unnecessarily limiting. No reason why policy should not
enable, encourage, facilitate dynamic quality too. Of course the
history of partisan politics has tended to preserve ideological
patterns, but history is only a guide to the future, not some hard
prediction or constraint ?

Marsha said:
I think your definition seems correct.  Coming from many "thinktanks" 
is just more of the same.  It may be that dynamic change will come 
from the dynamic threat the Earth's environment will impose.




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