[MD] Politics and Change

pholden at davtv.com pholden at davtv.com
Tue Aug 14 13:12:02 PDT 2007


Quoting david buchanan <dmbuchanan at hotmail.com>:

> Hamza Zeytinoglu said:
> If anybody is interested, I would like to get your ideas on an attempt to 
> re-define politics (in MOQ terms); “Politics is social activity with the 
> goal to enable or to prevent the movement of static value from one group to 
> another (creating change or maintaining no change).”
> 
> dmb says:
> Hello HZ. Chapters 21 and 22 of Lila both focus pretty heavily on politics. 
> Pirsig uses a bunch of historical examples to explain the political 
> conflicts of the 20th century. He paints it as a clash between social level 
> values and intellectual level values. The shift from traditional power 
> structures to intellectually guided societies is some kind of evolutionary 
> leap. Its not just a shift from the static to the dynamic, although that's 
> certainly part of the equation too. Anyway, those chapters will elaborate on 
> the idea with specific names, historical events and ideologies involved in 
> the drama. Check it out.

Platt says:
Pirsig, I hasten to add, pointed out that modern intellect, in its attempt to
guide society, contains a fatal flaw, namely, an inability to acknowledge the 
existence of values. Thus, the "evolutionary leap" has fallen into an abyss.



   

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