[MD] Voting

[David M]

Micah

Yes. And surely to reach a new level
you need evolution that retains past gains
and not merely destruction of existing SQ. At least,
you needsomething to replace the old SQ with.

DM

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Micah" <micah at roarkplumbing.com>
To: <moq_discuss at moqtalk.org>
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 10:01 PM
Subject: Re: [MD] Voting


> David M.
>
> Static pattern?
>
> Micah
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:moq_discuss-bounces at lists.moqtalk.org]On Behalf Of David M
> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 3:05 PM
> To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> Subject: Re: [MD] Voting
>
>
> Hi Ian/Micah
>
> Evidence of history is that after the revolution and chaos
> the old system gets set up again.
>
> David M
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "ian glendinning" <psybertron at gmail.com>
> To: <moq_discuss at moqtalk.org>
> Sent: Monday, August 13, 2007 10:04 PM
> Subject: Re: [MD] Voting
>
>
>> You're entitled to your opinion Micah, but that's a personal insult
>> ... my views on "governance" are arrived at after plenty of my own
>> consideration ... not something someone "sold" me.
>>
>> As I've mentioned in plenty of other threads ... the alternative to
>> "the system" is not no system, but a better, improved, evolved system
>> ... IMHO naturally.
>>
>> Also, the diversity of our possible ways to approach that change, is
>> itself a quality asset, maximises the chance of achieving change ...
>> each to his own as I said.
>>
>> Your constant use of the word "only" suggests you are too exclusively
>> certain of your opinions ... again IMHO.
>>
>> Ian.
>>
>> On 8/13/07, Micah <micah at roarkplumbing.com> wrote:
>>> Ian,
>>>
>>> "Each to his own" - you are partially correct there. Non-participation 
>>> is
>>> my
>>> own. Participation, even to bring change, is not your own, it's what the
>>> government sold you. The one thing the government truly fears and can
>>> truly
>>> be your own is non-participation. Governments will embrace participants,
>>> even radicals, knowing that the only change to occur will be in the
>>> participant - not the system - why change when they have you playing
>>> along?
>>> Your vote is confirmation of that fact.
>>>
>>> Micah
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It's not the "only" way Micah, it's the revolutionary way as opposed
>>> to the evolutionary way. Each to his own.
>>> Ian
>>>
>>> On 8/13/07, Micah <micah at roarkplumbing.com> wrote:
>>> > Ian,
>>> >
>>> > Participation in a corrupt system, through voting - including a vote 
>>> > of
>>> > no
>>> > confidence, is an affirmation of that system. Non participation in a
>>> system
>>> > is the only way to change a system.
>>> >
>>> > Micah
>>>
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