[MD] subject / object logic

david buchanan dmbuchanan at hotmail.com
Sun Aug 19 12:12:44 PDT 2007


Ham Priday said:
What I see as Pirsig's "rationale" is to re-arrange the attributes of 
existence to invent a new perspective.  Like the cartographer who, feeling a 
bit tipsy one day, looks at a relief map of the world and decides to draw 
his own boundaries, Pirsig looks at common experience and divides it up in 
an uncommon way, making Quality the "moral superpower" and classifying 
subjective and objective elements as its subordinate levels.  Having 
redefined everything to suit his moralistic rationale, he sits back and 
says, "See--this is what reality really is.  Isn't morality wonderful?"  How 
stupid of us ignoramuses not to see that we were looking at morality all the 
time! That's poetic license for a writer, of couse.  But PHILOSOPHY??

dmb says:
So let me get this straight. Pirsig is a rationalizing, drunken, 
condescending, moralizer? Is that really what you think or are you just 
expressing frustration at your own inability to comprehend the MOQ? Given 
the overly emotional tone, the ridiculous straw man you portray and the lack 
of any coherent thoughts behind your insults, I'd bet big bucks on the 
latter.

As I like to say from time to time, reading the works under discussion is 
the only requirement for participation here. You obviously have not done 
that. Or if you have read the books, your level of comprehension must be 
somewhere near 0%. I mean, genuine criticism is perfectly cool, but you 
first have to know what it is you're talking about. Otherwise, those who 
have read Pirsig are never going to take you seriously. Not even Platt, 
that's how bad it is!

Thanks,
dmb

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