[MD] subject / object logic

[Ant McWatt]

After unhelpfully editing out Ham’s post, Platt made the irrelevant comment 
about DMB’s reply to Ham, August 19th 2007:

"Another gratuitous personal insult from the radical left Marxist fringe."

Ant McWatt commented August 21st:

I think DMB’s non-partisan reply was largely fair comment especially as you 
_do_ often take Ham to task on this forum about his misunderstandings 
concerning the MOQ.  However, regarding your gratuitous personal insult 
about DMB’s post, that just indicates a relative lack of humour on your part 
and how much your mindset continues to be influenced (with little, if any 
critical analysis) by neo-con radio talk ideology and their narrow frame of 
debate.  Quite disturbing to observe really.

Platt Holden replied August 22nd:

Yes, I understand that it is "quite disturbing" to a liberal to have a 
conservative
viewpoint expressed.

Ant McWatt comments:

No, what is disturbing is your continued uncritical use of the parameters 
set in debate by neo-con ideology rather than Zen orientated philosophy.  
This is MOQ Discuss, not Liberal/Neo-Con Discuss and there was nothing in 
DMB’s August 19th post to Ham to warrant the moronic comment "Another 
gratuitous personal insult from the radical left Marxist fringe."

Platt Holden continued August 22nd:

Liberals would love to shut down talk radio, a frightening wish remindful of 
a dictator's first move -- silence opposition.

Ant McWatt comments:

Yet another smear.  Anyway, creating a silent, pliant opposition is more 
reminiscent of the likes of Nixon, Raygun, Bush, Junior and their political 
puppets (in South America, the Middle East and elsewhere).

Platt Holden continued August 22nd:

But, conservatives continue to win free elections, the latest in France.

Ant McWatt comments:

No doubt the majority in France will regret their error when their quality 
of life starts deteriorating in the near future.

Platt Holden concluded August 22nd:

There must be something to the conservative worldview that appeals to many. 
My guess is: individual freedom.

Ant McWatt comments:

My guess is: ignorance, propaganda, greed and/or an overly materialistic 
outlook.

For genuine freedom for the majority of individuals in the world (rather 
than a neo-con minority in the West) and a reduction in government 
interference (one of your pet desires), I'd look towards some MOQ orientated 
system of political anarchy with a small dose of Northrop and 
environmentalism.  (Note the absence of the word “Liberal”).

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“When George Bush was asked who was the greatest philosopher in the world he 
said: ‘Jesus Christ.’”

“Right there I thought: ‘My God, we are going to need Jesus Christ if this 
guy gets elected!’”

(Robert Pirsig to the Observer, November 19th 2006)

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