[MD] Pirsig the Prophet

[MarshaV]

At 02:22 PM 8/22/2007, SA wrote:

>     [Marsha]
> > From the way that you've talked of
> > this institution, I can understand why these young
> > women would not want to give it up.
>
>      Give up what?  Please clarify.

Their fear.  Their pain.   Their masks.


>      [Marsha]
> > Why should they?   If they did, what would they get
>in return?
>
>      Not sure what you mean, I believe it goes with my
>previous question.

It doesn't sound like a safe place.  What happens if you rip the 
shell from a turtle?   They may die.

I tossed my shell once, and felt wonderful, and was thunderstruck 
that I had ever chosen to carry such a burden. But I was very, very 
high, and in a very safe place.


>      [Marsha]
> > They should trust authority WHY?
>
>      Hell NO!  The authority is so messed up, if I
>were them I wouldn't trust it at all.  I have only a
>few I trust myself.  If I can't even feel that safe to
>allow my trust to grow, I don't blame the residents
>feeling this way, too.  Some of the things I get stuck
>doing don't make sense, but then I'm caught in system
>that nurtures a math game that just doesn't work.
>When we don't have the amount of staff necessary, the
>wisdom the staff need to meet the demands of this
>social event, and we, as staff, are forced to just
>slide by with the bare minimums, well, many problems
>just don't get addressed.  It's ridiculous!  I'm just
>trying to have dialogue with the residents.  I haven't
>yet punched a fellow authority figure, though I admit,
>sometimes a good yelling at some people in particular
>would, as the residents say from time to time, "Feel
>good!"  Yet, I haven't acted out on these yellings.  I
>have debated with others.  I've grown more and more
>strong with my position.  Circumstances have a lot to
>do with how I decide certain situations, etc...
>
>      [Marsha]
> > Who chooses?
>
>      Chooses what?

Who chooses to be there?   Who chooses to surrender?  Who chooses to 
change under those conditions?  I don't know the situation, but it 
does not sound good.  Why did you bring up 'safety'?

I don't like many social systems either.  Many seem very sick.  And 
social definitions seem upside-down and backwards.  What do you think 
of the Social Level?

it's good you have the woods,

Marsha