[MD] Platt's race question
Platt Holden
pholden at davtv.com
Sun Aug 26 15:04:25 PDT 2007
> [Arlo had said]
> That's the problem, they often aren't. That's what these programs were
> designed to correct. You seem to think the utopic world where people are
> judged by the actions and not their skin color already exists. Sadly, too
> many are judged unequally by such irrelevant characteristics such as
> thecolor of their skin.
>
> [Platt]
> You condemn a large part of a single race as incompetent?
>
> [Arlo]
> You see, it is this twisted and deceitful and vile talk-radio rhetoric that
> disgusts and shames me. No, obviously I said that that the competence of
> many blacks is not a factor in their success.
If it was obvious I wouldn't have asked the question. To say that a
question is twisted and deceitful and vile talk-radio rhetoric (which you
have never defined) is itself twisted and deceitful. Nor do I agree with
your follow up statement that "competence of many blacks is not a factor
in their success," suggesting many blacks who are successful are not
competent.
> [Platt]
> You think the scenario would be different if Mexicans or Arabs were looking
> at the house? You think blacks would react differently if Koreans were
> looking to open a business in a black neighborhood?
>
> [Arlo]
> No, I dont think it would have been any different if Mexicans or Arabs were
> looking at the house. What does that have to do with anything but prove my
> point that people ARE judged by the color of their skin, than many
> competent and GOOD people are not afforded a fair chance solely because
> their skin contains pigment.
It means human nature is what it is. And what's this about a "fair
chance?"
>And yes, I don't think it is only "whites" who
> are drawn into racial hatred. Have YOU ever been denied buying a house? Or
> opening a storefront? Have YOU ever found it odd that as soon as you start
> looking at homes in a neighborhood, suddenly none are for sale any longer?
> Racism against whites is a problem, but blacks lack the power to really
> effect your life because of it. Racism against blacks (and other
> minorities) often does alter their lives.
Blacks lack the power? Yeah, right. I know blacks who have been promoted
over whites simply because of their skin color. Yes, such racism does
alter lives.
> Again, the bottom line is that all people have to stop using this
> irrelevant "race" card, all people have to stop seeing "blacks and white"
> and see only people.
>
> [Platt]
> Until then let's not treat the poor whatever their color as helpless
> victims.
>
> [Arlo]
> No, let's treat the poor with compassion and assistance. But let's
> recognize that "blacks" are, in fact, often victims (as was the woman
> seeking to buy the house) of racist thinking, thinking that not only is
> rhetorical xenophobia, but in this case as an example, determined whether
> or not she was able to buy a home in a nice neighborhood like anyone else
> would want.
To treat the poor with compassion and assistance, blacks or otherwise, is to
imply that they can't help themselves. That may make you feel good but
it's a huge slap in the face to the supposed victim. It's exactly that
sort of holier-than-thou attitude that breeds resentment and largely
accounts for the utter failure of government handouts and welfare programs
to alleviate poverty.
> [Arlo had said]
> Sadly, those who most loudly assault "political correctness" are the ones
> most likely to slide right into xenophobia.
>
> [Platt]
> Evidence?
>
> [Arlo]
> Platt's post to this forum.
Again, no evidence. Just another smear.
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