[MD] Does Quality Exist?

[Redsky235 at aol.com]

In a message dated 12/1/2007 7:23:36 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
moq_discuss-request at lists.moqtalk.org writes:

If we  value certain values more because we value more value in them,
i.e.,  because our values help us value these values, then why do
people who  evaluate art value between what's "value" and what they  "value?"
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I bet I could tighten further by transforming the word  'people' and 
the pronouns into 'valuing agents'.  I might also ask  why you asked 
the question?   What is there other than  value?


 
That's pretty much the essence of what I was getting at.  What is  there 
besides value?  Well, I always found Pirsig's justification for  believing in 
"quality" somewhat flimsy, and coming from an (admittedly,  untutored) artistic 
background, it seems curious to me that Pirsig feels that a  definite break in 
absolute quality (not subjective) can exist between two works  of art.  I 
suppose you could say I value Bob Dylan's "Planet Waves" on a  personal level but 
reject its value on an artistic level, but here I'm operating  on two planes, 
one of which relates to what matters to me (the former) and one  as to what my 
opinions mean to others (the latter).  But in those grooves,  there is a 
(relatively) steady rhythm, no one hits any bum notes...so from that  point of 
view, the record has a lot of value (Quality?).   




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