[MD] subject/object: pragmatism

[Platt Holden]

> [Platt]
> Yes, I know. To you libs the majority of Americans are ignorant rubes and
> only intellectuals like you, Dennett and Al Gore  know the Truth. Anyway,
> reason is no challenge to theology. The reasonable theory that all is matter
> and energy consists of neither matter nor energy. Reason rests on unprovable
> premises. I assume you are familiar with Godel. 
> 
> [Krimel]
> As to the first part of your statement I would have to admit that I actually
> do think that way. I am often reminded of Robert Anton Wilson's statement,
> "Think of how dumb the average guy is and remember that half of the people
> are dumber than him." I mostly object to theologies and political view that
> elevate ignorance to a virtue.

[PLatt]
Are you referring to the theology of Jimmy Carter and the political view of 
Dennis Kucinich perhaps?

[Krimel]
> Unproven assumptions are inevitable. Which ones we make are matters of
> choice. I prefer to be guided by probability. 

[Platt]
While I prefer to be guided by Dynamic Quality.

> [Platt]
> Are you saying cause and effect laws (determinism) other than in quantum
> physics have been repealed by science and that I will live forever? If so, a
> lot a pathologists will be out of work. 
> 
> [Krimel]
> I believe what I have said repeatedly is that "cause and effect" are special
> cases where probability is estimated at 100%. Such instances are tragically
> rare.

[Platt]
I'll remember how "tragically rare" the next time my hunger is assuaged by 
a Big Mac and my thirst with a Heineken. 

[Krimel]
> With regard to living forever I would refer you to Ray Kurzweil.
> Extrapolating Moore's Law to medicine Kurzweil thinks that we have the
> potential to extend life if not forever at least indefinitely. 

[Platt]
I should live so long. :-)