[MD] Knowledge as MOQ's intellect

[Peter Corteen]

Hold your nerve Bo,

Pirsig suffered a mental breakdown figuring this stuff out; most bums out
there could not consider Pirsig's ideas for more than a moment.
You have been flexible over the boundaries of the Social level. Let's all
keep on pressing to clarify what is the intellectual level - it's evolving.

-Peter

On 15/12/2007, Heather Perella <spiritualadirondack at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>      [Bo previously said to SA]
> > You are a good person, but haven't got a clue about
> > the MOQ.
>
>
>
>      [then Bo responded to SA]
> > Peter Corteen seems to agree and his opinion counts
> > ..no? And when did majority guarantee truth?
>
>
>      [SA currently]
>       Ok, so it would seem Peter "agree(s)" with your
> SOL, so, if only you could get everybody to follow you
> oh great leader, haha.  Nobody has a clue about the
> Moq, except Bo - what a hoot!  Pirsig doesn't have a
> clue about the moq, I don't, Ian doesn't, Peter
> doesn't, nobody does, except Bo.  We should all move
> to Boville and learn from the great Hitler master
> called Bo.  Do you see how you are trying to OWN the
> moq, and make it yours?  You won't even let Pirsig
> have a say in his own metaphysics anymore.  This is
> mercantilism at its' worse.  This is empire building
> if I've ever seen it.  First take the idea, then own
> the reality, then say YOU have the ONLY interpretation
> and everybody MUST learn from you, even Pirsig.  What
> a hoot!
>
>
>      [SA previously]
> > If the moq is unreachable by even the bum living
> > under the bridge that hasn't read any of Pirsig's
> works,
> > never heard about Pirsig or the moq, and quality
> > is unreachable to this bum, then the moq is
> worthless
> > and you can throw it out, move on, and find
> something
> > else.
>
>
>    [Bo]
> > The MOQ is out of SOM (beyond, but builds on the
> > intellectual level)
>
>
>      [SA currently]
>      Your intellect has no morals or values.  You said
> it, not me.  But reality is quality, and thus,
> reality, (you do understand reality is everywhere,
> including intellect, society, organic, inorganic) is
> moral and is value.  So, change your intellect and
> allow yourself to notice the dharmakaya light.
>
>
>      [Bo]
> > and it will not be understood by one who has
> > not only
> > forsaken intellect, but society  too and is at the
> > biological plane.
>
>
>      [SA currently]
>      Who is at the biological plane?  People are
> dropping out of society, due to societies collapse.
> Society is being crushed and paralyzed by intellects,
> like yours, that insist on an S/O domination over
> society.  People are jumping off of the hot stove of
> society and intellect, looking for something better -
> once found it is a renewal of value and morals in
> their lives through and through on all levels
> (intellectual, social, etc...)  But first one has to
> want to heal their S/O intellect for a quality
> intellect.
>
>
>      [Bo]
> > When/where does Pirsig say that the MOQ should be
> > easily
> > understood. He says that Value is perceived by all,
> > not the MOQ.
>
>
>      [SA currently]
>      What worth is any metaphysics if hardly anybody
> in the world understands it?  Pirsig tapped into a
> reality that the Amerindians, Zen monks, Daoist, and a
> bum on the street can understand.  What would be the
> point of a metaphysics that is all powerful and
> wonderful and only Bo knows about it?  Isn't that a
> bit much Bo?
>
>
>      [Bo]
> > Thanks, but let's stick to logic and reason.
>
>
>      [SA currently]
>      Bo, your intellect is leading to these
> conclusions of yours, and you base your interpretation
> on these assumptions and this has everything to do
> with your logic and reasoning.  So, as long as your
> the Hitler of the moq world, I'll help you with
> compassion.
>
>
> empathetically,
> SA
>
>
>
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