[MD] Mind-body practice
pholden at davtv.com
pholden at davtv.com
Fri Dec 28 02:46:16 PST 2007
Quoting Dan Glover <daneglover at hotmail.com>:
> > From: Krimel at Krimel.com
> > To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> > Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 23:29:04 -0500
> > Subject: Re: [MD] Mind-body practice
> >
> > [Dan]
> > I agree it's intellectually appealing to learn new ideas and to fill our
> > days chasing empty concepts. I think the MOQ says that that takes us away
> > from Dynamic Quality, however. It doesn't bring us closer. Perhaps that is
> > what the literature on the Tao and Buddhism is telling you.
> >
> > [Krimel]
> > Do tell. Where does Pirsig say that the pursuit of knowledge takes us away
> > from Dynamic Quality?
>
> "Thought is not a path to reality. It sets obstacles in that path because when you
> try to use thought to approach something that is prior to thought your thinking
> does not carry you toward that something. It carries you away from it. To define
> something is to subordinate it to a tangle of intellectual relationships. And when
> you do that you destroy real understanding."
>
> "The purpose of mystic meditation is not to remove oneself from experience but to
> bring one's self closer to it by eliminating stale, confusing, static,
> intellectual attachments of the past."
>
> "While sustaining biological and social patterns
> Kill all intellectual patterns.
> Kill them completely
> And then follow Dynamic Quality
> And morality will be served."
>
> "Strictly speaking, the creation of any metaphysics is an immoral act since it's a
> lower form of evolution, intellect, trying to devour a higher mystic one."
[Platt]
Can anything be clearer? As far as Pirsig is concerned, pursuit of knowledge is
fine as far as it goes. But when it comes to reality, it's like a map, computer
model, equation or measurement that necessarily omits a large part of the territory
including, most notably, the pre-intellectual Quality experience.
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