[MD] Teachings from the American Earth (Part I)

[Heather Perella]

     [Bo]
> Right, at least you admit that the Greeks represent
> the coming of 
> SOM, and if so this added to Pirsig's in his letter
> to Paul Turner:
> 
>     I think the same happens to the term,
> "intellectual," when 
>     one extends it much before the Ancient Greeks.* 

     How does this quote above fit into SOM. 
"...before the Ancient Greeks."  Isn't that
excellence?

     [Bo] 
> Yes, the Orientals HAD a brief (in this time scale)
> sojourn on the 
> intellectual - SOM - level (the Upanishads
> philosophy) enough to 
> establish "subjectivity" as something different from
> "objectivity" 
> before going on to some Quality-like stage, don't
> you see the 
> necessity of S/O before "repairing" it. Thus they
> are in a different 
> league than the "aboriginals" who never had any such
> divide that 
> needed unification.      

     Needed unification.  Yes, S/O needs unification. 
Ever heard of Zen, and the shamans?

     [Bo]
> "The intellect of ...." indicates "the thoughts of"
> and this is the 
> very fallacy. The Native American's thoughts never
> reached the 
> stage of "their thoughts" being subjective and
> fundamentally 
> different from an "objective" and INDIFFERENT
> nature. On the 
> contrary they were at the social level where no such
> division exists, where correctly performed rituals
would sway
> the animated nature.  

     According to you we could kill and knock trees
down all day and this has nothing to do with living. 
Why must we divide the world up?  I don't get this
kind of intellect.  A nonvalued, indifferent kind of
world?  S/O is some real place where S's and O's dance
around indifferent from the world you say. 
Indifferent from the world, INDIFFERENT, capitalized
you add.  The "correctly performed rituals" of today,
right?  This is exactly what being part of the world
does not mean.

thanks for showing us for what we are trying to not to
do.

icicles,
SA
   


 
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