[MD] Dawkins a Materialist (is watching?)

[Ham Priday]

Micah --


> Objectivism is a logical system, based on the fact that
> reality is objective, not primary. An Objectivist Club
> (Ayn Rand Institute) is an oxymoron. Objectively,
> reality cannot be shown to exist independent of humans.
> To say reality exists without humans is an assumption,
> which is not objective.

Then the assumption must be subjective.  I have not seen "objective" used to
mean secondary or derivative before.  My science education led me to
understand objective to mean based on empirical evidence and thus
universally verifiable.  My intuition (and logic) tells me that where there
is objectivity there is also subjectivity.

> "Nothing can be shown to exist independent of humans"
> is an objective statement.  It is fact.

If the "fact" of existence is objective but requires human cognizance to
make it demonstrable, what you seem to be saying is that existence is
objective because it is realized subjectively.  I'm not sure I can accept
that logic.

Perhaps you will resolve this paradoxical conclusion the next time ;-)?

Thanks, Micah

Ham