[MD] Dawkins a Materialist (is watching?)

[Ron Kulp]

My apologies, I meant no disrespect.  

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[mailto:moq_discuss-bounces at moqtalk.org] On Behalf Of Micah
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 11:33 PM
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Ron,

Complete misinterpretation of what I said, it's bad enough when I put my
foot in my mouth - it's worse when you put your foot in my mouth.

Micah


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[mailto:moq_discuss-bounces at moqtalk.org]On Behalf Of Ron Kulp
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Platt,
It would seem that Micah is the measure of all things, if reality
independent of humans can not be proven, Reality outside of Micah can
not be proven either and if he believes this, he IS the measure of his
universe.

I just wish he'd settle the middle east conflict.

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[mailto:moq_discuss-bounces at moqtalk.org] On Behalf Of pholden at davtv.com
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Quoting Micah <micah at roarkplumbing.com>:

> Platt,
>
> So now let me understand, you say "it is true that the inference of of

> independent existence cannot be demonstrated", so you agree that 
> nothing can be shown to exist independent of  humans? Meaning the 
> statement is fact regardless of your faith? Isn't that objectivity?
>
> On what day, of your everyday experience, have you experienced reality

> to exist independent of humans? Everyday I wake up, my right ankle 
> hurts for an instant, I believe it is a angel pinching me for good 
> luck - should I doubt that philosophically, after all it's what I 
> believe and you have stated I shouldn't doubt my beliefs.
>
> You have too much clutter, and that clutter is your faith. And you 
> won't let go...so there you are.

If you want to believe existence doesn't exist, be my guest. But somehow
I expect that the words above exist. Otherwise, why would I reply?





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