[MD] Mountain View

ian glendinning psybertron at gmail.com
Thu Feb 8 12:59:23 PST 2007


Hi Marsha, I only latched on to the final sentence because you had
already highlighted it.

I liked the whole thing, and as you say that "view from greater
heights" is a good metaphor. I'm a metaphor kind of person ;-)

Ian

On 2/8/07, MarshaV <marshalz at charter.net> wrote:
>
> Ian,
>
> I thought the final point was true enough, but I thought the most
> important point was, "when looking for the especially large patterns
> of a particular territory it is sometimes necessary to climb to
> heights much greater than the mountaintops in that territory."
>
> m
>
>
> At 08:41 AM 2/8/2007, you wrote:
> >I like that Marsha,
> >
> >As an aside, I'm re-reading T E Lawrence Seven Pillars of Wisdom at
> >the moment, and it is full of descriptions of the common traits and
> >differences of peoples in all those regions (except Libya) pre-dating
> >many of the national boundaries.
> >
> >But you highlight the main point in that final sentence, one I often
> >rant myself.
> >"Too many people are still trapped by the idea of .... definition ..."
> >
> >Ian
> >
> >On 2/8/07, MarshaV <marshalz at charter.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > Greetings,
> > >
> > > A while back I was trying to explain that I thought interpreting the
> > > Social & Intellectual Levels was so confusing because we are immersed
> > > in them.  Here is a far better description of what I was trying to
> > > explain, but pertaining to art.
> > >
> > > "On the other hand, all attempts to discover the essential properties
> > > of art have been carried out through a search for common denominators
> > > within art itself.  However,when looking for the especially large
> > > patterns of a particular territory it is sometimes necessary to climb
> > > to heights much greater than the mountaintops in that
> > > territory.  Thus, for instance, if we seek to find the common
> > > denominator of Libya, Egypt, Israel, Lebanon, Syria, and Turkey, the
> > > intuitive reply is, "Trouble."  But if this region is viewed from a
> > > height of several dozen kilometers, it is easily seen that all these
> > > nations have a common coastline.
> > >
> > > Similarly, it is possible that the answer to the questions, "What is
> > > the common denominator of works of art?" is not so evident at the
> > > level of the works themselves; instead, we can discover it more
> > > easily if we look for it from a height that allows us to see art as a
> > > special case of a broader pattern that includes the other areas of
> > > culture.  Too many people are still trapped by the idea of the
> > > importance of the definition of art, ..."
> > >                             (Avital, 'ART versus NONART', p. 258)
> > >
> > >
> > > The last sentence seems very relevant.
> > >
> > > But this is just a reflection of my own confusion.
> > >
> > > m
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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