[MD] Mountain View

Ron Kulp RKulp at ebwalshinc.com
Fri Feb 9 05:58:30 PST 2007


When no path apears,
 some say, 
This is an opportunity
To make one . 

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[mailto:moq_discuss-bounces at moqtalk.org] On Behalf Of MarshaV
Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 5:37 AM
To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
Subject: Re: [MD] Mountain View

At 04:04 AM 2/9/2007, you wrote:
>Marsha and All
>
>8 Feb. you spoke::
>
> > A while back I was trying to explain that I thought interpreting the

> > Social & Intellectual Levels was so confusing because we are 
> > immersed in them.  Here is a far better description of what I was 
> > trying to explain, but pertaining to art.
>
>Agree, with doubts about the social level - at least regarding this 
>forum. We are totally immersed in intellect's value and that is what 
>hinders an understanding of what intellect's role is in the MOQ  ... 
>and thereby what the MOQ is. This is the reason behind my SOL 
>interpretation that posits the MOQ as a meta-level from where the 
>levels and their purpose is seen, not least that intellect is the value

>of the S/O distinction (no small thing though) and not a 
>super-"container" that contains that which is supposed to contain 
>intellect. Pirsig's assertion that the MOQ is an intellectual pattern 
>isn't very helpful, but inputs like yours shows that bulbs are 
>beginning to light up above some heads.
>
>IMO
>
>Bo

Greetings Bo,

Bulbs beginning to light up?  Seems to me I'm coming undone.  I've been
pacing like a panther for weeks.

It seems to me the MOQ belongs in the Intellectual Level.  It's an
intellectual theory.  If one wants the Sage's actual experience, the
metaview, then the climb is required.  I've been in solitude for the
past 5 years hoping for a path to appear, but I am as dense as the next
person, so I just get tangled in my own thinking.  And actually, after
five years, I'm quite sick of myself too.

I am trying.

Marsha




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