[MD] The Anti-entropic Miopic

[Case]

[Mark]
>From an moq perspective there are four levels of patterns at work here:
1. The inorganic is increasing in thermal entropy/disorder. (By the way,
you recently rejected entropy as a measure of disorder.)

[Case]
If the levels work fine, if not, oh well. I am not sure why I rejected this
but I am not a physicist, I don't even play one on TV.

[Mark]
2. Biological patterns parasitising thermal entropy for an increase in
information order.

[Case]
Biological patterns don't parasite entropy they transform energy and some
gets lost along the way as a sort of entropy tax.

[Mark]
3. There is no acknowledgement of social patterns in Hawking's account,
which is unsurprising. However, Hawking does not exist in a socially
conditioned vacuum.

[Case]
Hawking is not concerned with societies but if you look at the growth in
complexity of societies, it follows from an increased ability to use and
transform energy. From fire to agriculture and domestic animals to water
wheels to steam to internal combustion societies have become increasing
complex through the transformation of energy. 

[Mark]
4. The intellectual patterns of science. Note the paradigm employed by  
Hawking delineates between energy and information.

[Case]
Ian or Arlo would be better able to comment on this. I tend to think the
information metaphor is over used and can be misleading but then I don't
have that firm a grip on the concept.

[Mark] 
No. 6: What do you want?
No. 2: In-Form-ation.
No. 6: Well, you won't get it!
No. 2: By hook or by crook we will. (followed by manic  laughter).

[Case]
I don't get it. (followed by confused but polite laughter.)