[MD] Quantum computing
Magnus Berg
McMagnus at home.se
Sat Feb 17 13:19:39 PST 2007
Hi Case
Thanks for your questions about quantum computers. They are probably a good way
to start explaining what quantum computers are about.
> [Case]
> Quantum computing is a bit new to me but I am having trouble seeing how
> allowing interference of any sort into the calculations can produce a happy
> result. If I am look for a solution to a problem in cryptography how is
> evolution going to help? On the one hand it is suggested that qbits will
> allow much faster calculations and on the other that the processing power
> stems from quantum effects. Are these quantum effects resulting in raw speed
> or in better Quality answers?
First of all, I *don't* have an in depth understanding of exactly how quantum
computers work, nor a deep knowledge in quantum theory. But I've read pretty
much about it so I think I have some grasp of what it's about. You can probably
find better answers online but here's my take on it.
Quantum Computers (QC from now on), is partly about raw speed, but they are not
fast in GHz. The speed comes from massive parallelism. And we're not just
talking 4, 8, 16 or even 80 cores (as Intel claims to do in 2012). We're talking
2^n simultaneous calculations, where n is the number of qubits in the system.
So, for the 16 qubit QC just demoed, that amounts to 65536 simultaneous
calculations. The funny, and crucial, thing to understand here is that these
calculations are really SIMULTANEOUS. If you don't believe that you might as
well stop reading, because that's just one thing that makes QCs conceptually
different from digital computers (DC). Some researchers claim the QC uses
parallel universes to make the calculations, but how it works is not really the
point. The point is that this is *one* way that QCs are really different from DCs.
However, to extract the result from a QC, you need to detect the states of the
qubits. This is done using some kind of QC/DC interface and will collapse the
superpositions of the qubits into digital states, a 0 or 1. And here's another
very important thing to realize with regards to the MoQ, when the QC/DC
interface collapses the superposition of the qubits into a 1 or 0, it's a
Quality Event. Such an event is very similar to what happens when I'm typing
right now. The qubits in my brain collapses/decides what to write and then
writes it on my computer.
>>From what I could find about the demo you mentioned it looked promising but
> there are skeptics and I don't suppose I will be looking at super-cooled
> chips on my desktop anytime soon. But then I would never have though I would
> have a dual core processor on my desktop by now either so who knows.
>
> I wonder sometimes how appropriate computer metaphors are when thinking of
> biological systems. Truly they are useful but how far can we push them. We
> have been quick to seize the latest in technology and apply it to our
> understanding of biological processes. In the early days of telephony the
> brain could be seen as a complicated switching system, the brain is a
> thinking machine etc.
>
> Much of the cognitive sciences proceeds from the notion the brain is a
> sophisticated computer running programs. But this metaphor can break down
> when pushed. A program is an algorithm, a series of sequential steps. I am
> not sure what organisms do is at all sequentially. Computers operate in
> discrete steps or clock cycles I don't think organisms work this way.
> Certainly computer metaphors are useful but it is easy to overlook the
> limitations.
To some, I will probably sound like someone reinventing the wheel, but I really
think QCs are conceptually different from today's DCs. The metaphors (and many
limitations) of DCs doesn't apply to QCs. To claim that the brain is like a QC
*is* very different from claiming it's like a DC.
> What modern efforts in AI are doing is attempting to simulate in algorithmic
> form what brains do organically. So far it seems to me that the value of
> this accrues mainly from the effort involved in thinking this through. That
> is we know the brain does pattern recognition; how can we construct an
> algorithm to recognize patterns. Digitally this requires a brute force
> approach.
Exactly, but if (when) they are able to use a QC for pattern recognition, it
will completely change the playing field. Think neural networks. A DC handling a
neural network must simulate every transition in the network, and every added
node in the network doubles the time it takes to calculate a result.
But a QC is a natural fit for a neural network. The brain *is* a neural network,
and a QC *is* a neural network. Adding a new node is "just" a matter of adding a
qubit. It will take *no* additional time to calculate a result. The problem
being pondered at the moment is how to add an arbitrary number of qubits, and
even if that seems very hard, I'm sure they will start to increase from the
current 16 in a decade or two.
> When you suggest that the brain maybe a quantum computer, how so? Aren't
> these attempts at quantum computing still handling binary information?
> Aren't they still going to be handling information in discrete steps?
Not internally, but as I wrote above, if you want to see a result from the QC,
you need to perform the QC/DC conversion step, the Quality event.
> I am
> not sure how quantum effects would apply to a nervous system. It is my
> understanding that quantum effect disappear above the level of complex
> molecules. Are you suggesting that macro level information is somehow
> processed at the level of protein synthesis?
Actually, quantum effects *can* affect larger structures. I'm not sure how they
did it in the demo QC but one way is to use a Bose Einstein condensate. As far
as I remember, a BEC structure can be created in a superconducting structure,
which is probably why they need such powerful cooling. (Actually, I think I read
they use photon traps for the demo QC, and then they use entangled particles to
detect the states).
But if you're asking how quantum effects can affect a nervous system, like a
brain, I think BECs can explain that as well. Dana Zohar wrote in "The Quantum
Self" that there are some experimental results indicating that BEC structures
are affecting the inner working of the brain. But I'm on pretty thin ice here,
so don't take my word for it, at least not before I can re-check the source.
Best regards,
Magnus
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