[MD] Global Warming: Science or Politics?

[pholden at davtv.com]

Quoting Case <Case at iSpots.com>:

> [Platt]
> I know you liberals fail to discern much difference between corporations and
> governments. The former cannot force people into gulags at the point of gun.
> Governments can and do. Big difference in my book.  
> 
> [Case]
> Big difference in your head more than in actual real world effect. 

Oh? How so? When was the last time Exxon threw anybody in jail or invaded
a country?

> [Platt]
> Are you suggesting that those are the only sources we should cite as
> credible? 
> 
> [Case]
> Not at all. But the fact that you don't even know what they are says
> something about your grip on the facts.

Science and nature are not exactly copyrighted names of magazines like
The New Yorker and the Architectural Digest.

> [Platt]
> How about those meetings you referred to in the post about brain scans?
> 
> [Case]
> You would have to refresh my memory on that.

Annual Conference of the Society for Personality and Social Psychology, probably
held in Las Vegas. 

> [Platt]
> You can read the history in Wikipedia as well as I can.
> 
> [Case]
> My reading says that it was proposed as far back as Plato's time. Selective
> breeding would improve the human species that is not really a question. The
> reason it is not a good idea is not that it would not work but that nobody
> wants to be told who to breed with.

Guess you skipped the historical part and the scientists who promoted the
idea of selective breeding. But, selective reading is to be expected when
you don't want to know that science can do wrong.

> [Platt]
> The banning of DDT in 1971 resulted in the death of tens of millions of
> people in the developing world, most of them children, from insect-borne
> diseases such as malaria.
> 
> [Case]
> Your concern for third world children truly touching.

You cry over the passenger pigeon, but children dying is fodder for your
sarcasm.  

> > [Case]
> > Your continued reference to global cooling and today's temperature in
> > reference to climate change highlights the shallowness of your
> understanding of the issues.
> 
> [Platt]
> Sez you. Are you now The Source?
> 
> [Case]
> Yes, I am "The Source" of all unbiased wisdom. But if you doubt me, we could
> put it to a vote. 
> 
> Who thinks Platt has a clue about what is happening in the environment?
> 
> Vote early and vote often.

Yes. By all means. Let's decide facts by vote.

> [Platt]
> Utter tragedy of extinctions? I cry every night over the loss of the
> smallpox virus. 
> 
> [Case]
> Ok, when the choice comes down to us against them, we win. But hunting
> creatures to extinction for sport, unrestricted destruction of habitat;
> these are crimes against nature. That you consider this a flippantly is
> nothing short of obscene.

What's obscene is your holier-than-thou attitude.

> [Platt]
> I know. Corporations were responsible for the holocaust. And of course,
> fallout from state owned nuclear power plants is nothing to be concerned
> about.
> 
> [Case]
> Corporations are merely working up steam for larger projects but their
> record so far is pretty impressive: Love Canal, Kerr-McGee's asbestos
> plants, Union Carbide's Bhopal disaster, Ford's weighing of the cost of
> human deaths in Pinto crashes, the tobacco industry, the list goes on... So
> corporations may be behind but they are working hard to catch up.

So you want to compare that to the death and destruction of wars in the last
100 years? Surely you just.





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