[MD] Quantum computing

[Magnus Berg]

Hi Bo

> Thanks for the info. I promise to write it out and "post it" on the 
> wall. Lars Marius Garshol ...  can't remember him even if I joined 
> just a few days after the start of the Lila Squad, but you may 
> have kept it going for some time before the decision to make it 
> an online discussion. But who initiated it? How did you "meet" 
> with the other people? 

Well, it just took that question to realize it should be possible to find it 
online, and here it is:

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.books/browse_frm/thread/6145a593c60eca69/fdd6be5899ca1fe3?lnk=st&q=&rnum=1#fdd6be5899ca1fe3

But that was actually a reply to another thread initiated by Andrew:

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.books/browse_frm/thread/fe43c9cc7f48b6ef/5e4a84dbdcc95da5?lnk=st&q=&rnum=2#5e4a84dbdcc95da5


> Doug Renselle. I thought he was the Quantum "nerd" but it 
> sounds as if you may have been his early mentor ;-)  

Nah, he was into quantum physics when he joined, so if we affected each other, 
it was more the other way around.

>> Actually, I once argued to add a quantum level below the inorganic level.
>> I even wrote a bunch of questions for Pirsig via Dan Glover but I don't
>> know if they ever got there, Dan?  
>       
> I'm much impresses by your QC knowledge, but if you mean that 
> "machine awareness" may emerge, it really is a new "mind from 
> (brain) matter" branch, and goes against the MOQ. Pirsig says 
> that mind is out of society, but I believe that the correct 
> interpretation is that the notion of a mind is "out of intellect" i.e. 
> not the level itself but PART of its repertoire. The MOQ is 
> supposed to resolve the biggest platypus of them all - the 
> mind/matter one - and only the SOL way works.  

No, it's not mind from matter. It's just the same as biological brains. You 
don't need to break the MoQ, just define the biological a teeny weeny bit 
broader than most do. See my essay in the forum.

	Magnus