[MD] Pirsig, Peirce and Philosophologology re-establishing pragmatism

[skutvik at online.no]

Hello Ron

Can't remember if we have spoken before, this discussion is 
beyond human memory. 

21 Feb. you wrote to Matt: (once a fallen priest, but now back on the pulpit ;)

> ".. in this approach he took on SOM And arrived at MOQ. Using 
> mechanics terms, MOQ is SOM with its head out of its own ass. 

Hark, hark! "MOQ is SOM with its head ...etc. Much like my 
assertion, and if you accept that SOM becomes the top level of 
the MOQ it's a perfect match. Must not the previous theory be the 
top "level" of the new one? Newton's physics is Relativity's "best 
of the old sort" and sufficient for all practical purposes except the 
most "extreme"?     

You went on:
> C.S. Pierce like Pirsig, asserts that knowledge is not a body of
> certainties but
> A body of explanations and the growth of our scientific knowledge does
> not
>  Consist in adding new certainties to a body of existing ones, it
> consists in Replacing existing explanations with better explanations.

Peirce?! Way back I saw the Peirce-Pirsig connection, something 
scoffed at by Pirsig in "Lila's Child" even if I said that it was only 
up to the trinity stage of ZMM and that the MOQ surpasses 
Peirce's. As I understand the Peirce's Sign Metaphysics" (I only 
know him from a Norwegian book and right now I couldn't even 
find it) The book compared his tripod logic to a doctor, the signs 
(of mumps) and the diagnosis. I can't remember what was 
compared to what here, but SIGN (significance=value ) meets all 
criteria of Pirsig's trying to prove Quality at the start of LILA. 

> Was put forward as a method  for ascertaining
> the meaning of terms thus we can say A theory of meaning.

A Metaphysics of Meaning. Another thesis of mine is that many 
varieties of MOXes could have been forwarded *) it's the "out of 
SOM's ass" - beyond S/O - that counts and to achieve this a new 
metaphysical divide is necessary and ONLY a variety of 
Dynamic/Static meets that criterion 

*) P. of ZMM was greatly excited by Poincarê's "Harmony" and 
Einstein's  (whatever that was) so he obviously saw their 
concepts as related.    

> To compare him to any philosopher is comparing apples to pineapples.

Agree!

Bo