[MD] the MOQ and its environment

[MarshaV]

At 12:51 PM 2/27/2007, Bo wrote:
>Hi Marsha
>
>On 26 Feb. you wrote:
>
> > Subject/Object Metaphysics:  reality = subject & objects
>
> > Metaphysics of Quality:  reality = quality
>
> > Why don't YOU get this?
>
>YOU did not comment the SOM as a "quality metaphysics" point,
>how this shows that it doesn't matter what reality is called, it's the
>divide that counts, besides it's the DQ/SQ - not only the
>reality=quality axiom - which is the MOQ.

You have not indicated the exact quote so I do not know the context 
to your "quality metaphysics".  So I can only suggest that there is a 
quality tree, there is a quality rock and there is a small, black, 
quality poodle (Bebe).


>Nobody before Pirsig spoke of any "reality" split a particular way,
>the S/O chasm was self-evident. Likewise the Dynamic/Static will
>become self-evident in - say - a couple of centuries ;-)

Better late than never :-)

>
>Once more, look to the diagram page in ZMM where SOM and
>MOQ are drawn. The top box says  'reality' for the former and
>'quality (reality)' for the latter. The reality=quality is just a
>parenthesis, it's the subsequent split that sets the two apart. The
>snag is the illusion of the said top box remaining behind, it's the
>box itself which is split.

Bo, the MOQ wasn't even a twinkle in Pirsig's eye when ZMM was 
written.  I don't think this is a fair comparison or support for your 
argument.   But even in the diagram, Romantic Quality and Classic 
Quality are still both Quality.


>I'm puzzled why oneness means so much  - "dualism" seems a
>swear-word - and why so few appreciate the significance of the
>Dynamic/Static split compared to the S/O one. (Kevin may be the
>exception) The enormous explanatory power of the MOQ rests
>with the static levels.

Dualism isn't a swear-word, it's proved very useful, but it's an 
illusion.  There is only Quality.  I appreciate the Dynamic/Static 
split.  The levels are genius.  The MOQ a better worldview, by far, 
than the Subject/Object worldview.   I think that if the SOM is an 
enemy of the MOQ, it's because the SOM will want to divide the world, 
by habit, into subjects and objects.  Reality = Quality, a monism, is 
a truer, true.

Marsha