[MD] Terry Eagleton's God Delusion

[David M]

Hi DMB

Some hints for you to ponder:

experience=reality

experience can be divided into SQ & DQ

experience can be divided into what is actual and possible/potential

experience=reality=actual/possible

Aristotle rejected the idea that the possible is real, which has
been a western assumption ever since, want to stick with him?

Whitehead says god or infinite potential is entirely non-actual.

By the way if you need some hard homework I know a good book
on Heideggger and Whitehead, let me know.

Have a think.

You know, the reality of what is potential first struck me via
quantum physics, you know, the way waves of potential interfere
with each other, and have a mathematically describable influence
on what becomes actual. It's all in the process, and if you look
at it right, it's all there in our experience too.

And another hint: Intellect has quite alot to do with differentiating
what is potential and not actual, this can occur prior to something
only potential becoming actual, which is a dynamic emergence that
is differentiated and deliberate, the very meaning of intellect/agency.
Pirsig fails to properly analyse this aspect of the relationship between
intellect and DQ. Agentive emergence (intelligence) is differentiated
and emergent-dynamic.

Now why not sit on those kick back reflexes and have a real think about 
this.

David M

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "david buchanan" <dmbuchanan at hotmail.com>
To: <moq_discuss at moqtalk.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 7:36 PM
Subject: Re: [MD] Terry Eagleton's God Delusion


> David M said:
> 'God' as a word for the source of all possibilities is well covered in
> Sneddon's thesis on Whitehead & Pirsig, it's simple stuff really, I'm sure
> you can grasp it.
>
> dmb says:
> It may be simple to read a master's thesis (although that's debatable) but
> it would consume many hours of my time. One would think, if it is so 
> simple
> and easy to grasp, that you would have simply answered my question.
>
> David M said:
> I think Whitehead's analysis of the distinction possible/actual is key to
> expanding what Pirsig says about static/dynamic. The physicist Shimon 
> Malin
> thinks Whitehead's approach is the ideal one for making sense of quantum
> theory, the connections to Pirsig are obvious if you look at the chapters
> in this: ...
>
> dmb says:
> Process philosophy and quantum theory expands Pirsig dq/sq split. Just a 
> few
> chapters and I'll see all this and its relation to Whitehead's
> possible/actual distinction? Oh yea, that sounds real simple. And again,
> this would take hours at least.
>
> If you have an answer to my question, that's fine. But I have way more 
> than
> enough to read already. I'll ask you (again) to refrain from giving me
> homework instead of straight talk. If the concept has meaning, then it can
> be explained. I suspect no explanations have been offered for that reason. 
> I
> mean, it looks like your (second) non-answer is just another evasion. If
> there are so many interesting connections, wouldn't all the readers gain
> something from it and isn't that the point of a forum like this one?
>
> Why is it getting any kind of coherent thought from you is like pulling
> teeth? Why would you tell somebody that the answer is simple and then not
> simply give it? Maybe I should try to be compassionate about it because
> you're not capable for some reason, but I'm not. This philosophical
> impotence only makes me angry. Its just more of the vagueness and
> abstraction I was complaining about in the first place. And the
> condescending attitude doesn't help either.
>
> Thanks for nothing,
> dmb
>
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