[MD] Food for Thought

[David M]

Hi Ham

Only absurd given your view that history is already laid out before us.

Can't see how we can ignore what we experience, i.e. that we make
choices, to forsake many of our possibilities to take up just a tiny
few of them.

David M

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ham Priday" <hampday1 at verizon.net>
To: <moq_discuss at moqtalk.org>
Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 7:52 PM
Subject: Re: [MD] Food for Thought


> Hello David --
>
>
> Ham said:
>> History is a fait accompli.
>
> David said:
>> It can change nothing so what would be the point?
>
> On the contrary, it can change everything.  If you think this through, you
> will see how shallow is the point you have taken.  Allow me to lead you
> through my reasoning.
>
> In the experiential world, history is observed as process: 'A' progresses 
> to
> 'Z'.
> Direct experience is that of the present, somwhere around 'M'.  Thus, we
> know that A - M has already occurred and is past history.  What has yet to
> occur is N - Z.  We know that this, too, will be history.  Whether the
> entire progression of history is finite, repeated as a cycle, or infinite,
> ultimately it is complete.  If we regard history as "reality in process" 
> (a
> la Whitehead), the beginning and the end are ultimately one.
>
> Does this mean that my writing a thesis, or you living your life, is
> pointless?  Evidently not.  Does it mean that you and I are not free to 
> make
> our own choices?  Absolutely not.  A 'fait accompli' is neither fatalism 
> nor
> pre-determination.  In the absolute scheme of things, it simply means that
> all decisions, all actions, all values are essentially one.
>
> In my ontology, existence is the negated, differentiated state of the
> Absolute.  Every thing and event is experienced as an object relative to
> awareness, which is also differentiated.  The "common denominator" of
> existence is nothingness. When awareness ceases, nothingness is re-negated
> (annulled), and All is One.
>
> Now what, exactly, is "absurd" about my writing a thesis?
>
> Enjoy the new year.  (It may still hold some surprises for both of us.)
>
> Regards,
> Ham
>
>
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