[MD] SOLAQI, Kant's TITs, chaos, and the S/I distinction

[Heather Perella]

      [Laird]
> ...but certainly we ARE 
> conscious of subjects and objects on the
> intellectual level. Or, we can 
> choose to speak of consciousness as some
> undifferentiated emergence from 
> staticness in general, but doing so arguably has us
> discussing something 
> other than the MoQ.

     Why does speaking "of consciousness as some
undifferentiated emergence from staticness... has us
discussing something other than the MoQ"?  Could you
elaborate please?

     [Laird]
> Another way to look at the Dogen quote is in terms
> of describing the 
> static-dynamic continuum, the "sweet 
> spot"/coherence/balance/pick-a-label often
> discussed. I find it 
> intriguing (or at least romantic) to imagine a
> balance-point of 
> consciousness where we can experience
> S/O-nondifferentiation 
> (intellectually).


     Once done intellectually, then, everywhere no
differentiation, right?  At least our perspective
would be such.


     [Laird]
> Non-S/O mode(s) of intellect. The
> analogy of wearing 
> different intellectual glasses comes to mind again.
> I think the concept 
> of S/O distinction as one of many intellectual modes
> goes further to 
> show how the MoQ accommodates our wearing of "SOM",
> "MoQ", "Zen", and 
> other 'intellectual glasses'.

     How does S/O distinction (you know that means
subjects and objects are separated completely) go
"...further to show how the MoQ
accommodates...etc..."?   Please elaborate.


     By the way, it is interesting how an awareness
notices pure object 'Tree', pure subject 'I', yet,
this awareness is Zen awareness and MoQ fits in here,
too.  Thus, pure objective lens according to this Zen
awareness means everything other than the tree is just
amidst Nothingness or is amidst this quiet, the same
for 'I'.  This Nothingness, (this quietness) is
consciousness as in just see.  Is consciousness seeing
itself or is consciousness just aware?  I lean towards
the second one.  Conscious of quiet is just aware, for
as soon as I'm aware of consciousness or consciousness
is aware of itself, then it is no longer quiet.


still raining,
SA

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