[MD] Intention changes physical world (some questions)
Case
Case at iSpots.com
Tue Jan 16 20:51:42 PST 2007
[David M]
I like to think of metaphysics as being talk that does not
realise it is about describing our experience. It seeks the
words and concepts to try and make some sense of our
experience. The fact all this speculation has had something
useful to say about our experience, but most have captured
little more than a certain aspect of our rich experience
and possible ways to understand how this experience is possible.
[Case]
You obviously have some kind of issue here. What exactly is your complaint?
Do you actually see hope for a philosophy that denounces or it otherwise
inconsistent with science? You are complaining because science does not live
up to your expectations when you expect it to do things it is not even
supposed to do.
[David M]
Science, pretty much, describes bits of experience, measures it,
and fits it into formulas that can be used to make very exact
descriptions. It's great but, I'm afraid, that's not enough and we have
further questions to ask and try to answer. Natural history is
not like this and is made rather unrealistically simple when we talk
about 'fitness' for survival because this tells us little about the great
variety of ways to survive and do alot more than just survive
and be fit. I am very unfit for example but survive and do all
kinds of weird extra stuff.
[Case]
Fitness is unrealistically simple? My God, man look at the vast array of
strategies for survival exhibited in nature and you call that simple?
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