[MD] Dawkins a Materialist (is watching?)

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Ian said:
The argument is that, evolved, emerged design IS intelligent.  The 
intelligent design IS the process of emergence, with no master plan or  
master intellect required or implied.

dmb says:
Well, that's just  plain wrong. Isn't it?
 
Mark: No. It isn't necessarily wrong at all.
In fact, a little careful reading of the moq can be used to support a  version
 of emergent intelligent design.
This sloppy thinking of yours will have to be knocked on the head if you  
want to be a sincere free thinking man David. Slavishly grinding away at  
absolute insistence closes your mind to other possibilities. I say this as a  
kindness.
 
dmb:
The idea of natural emergence with 
no master intellect, a.k.a. natural  selection, is exactly what ID is most 
interested in opposing. I mean, you're  as incorrect as a guy could be here, 
Ian.
 
Mark: David, It's a fine line. I've just been researching something i was  
introduced to last December which at first seemed to be an alternative to  
theistic explanations of why the cosmos exists. However, the idea i've been  
researching has been used in a number of theistic essay compilations using this  
idea to support the existence of God. I found this disturbing.
 
dmb:
Its like a whole new level of wrong. Its astonishing, spectacular  
drivel! You taken this art to such heights that its become a form of  
entertainment. Congratulations.
 
Mark: Poor. This is very poor indeed David.
I know you are playing to your fan base and they expect a certain tone from  
you, but this is not consistent with good thinking.
You fail to recognise a large variety of conceptions of God:
I would have thought by now David that you, of all people, must have been  
introduced to just how sneaky theistics are?
Many theistics may be quite happy to accommodate emergent Intelligence  
because the payoff re-establishes God in some form of acceptable sense.
Simply winking at your semen-for-brains friends and trotting out,  'Its like 
a whole new level of wrong' makes you sound like a cartoon satire of  American 
cultural stupidity.